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"Hello, I'm setting up an HP E87740DN for another dealer.

Reading through the installation instructions it refers to a speed license for this series. Does the HP E87740DN require a speed license or is it the default speed model?"



"40 ppm will be the default speed. On your configuration page, LPDC will show "Not Configured" and its speed CAN be increased in the future if a (faster) license is purchased. These models are fairly new and my understanding of HP's new way of handling their LPDC is still not clear, but I have been told (by one of our sales reps) that HP no longer bothers making the slowest speed within these new series available...that is ONLY the faster speeds will be available for purchase. Can someone out there verify this?"

I said:

"Speed licenses are an interesting new trend and I understand the benefit for both for an OEM and a dealer. Both have to inventory fewer boxes.

I think only Kyocera and HP offer it.

On a Toshiba copier the difference between a 25-30 cpm and a 35 -45 cpm is that there are two vs three heater lamps inside the fuser hot roller. So there is a physical difference not just a software license to buy.

Toshiba's 55 and 65 cpm are a different more robust fuser design altogether.

Sounds like HP is not offering speed licenses on less than 40 cpm so their higher speed models must all have the same fuser. That must mean that their 40 ppm is really designed as a 70 ppm slowed down.

It will be interesting to see how durable these machines are after few years. Leading edge usually means bleeding edge and HP has never been that great at taking care of their dealers.

Any idea how much a speed license cost?"

I have seen a video where a senior HP Sales Manager suggested that sales reps could low ball an account with a 40 cpm price where every other vendor has to go in a with 55 cpm.  The Sales Manager said we could always up the speed later if that is a problem.



On a different note, the new high end HPs offer up to 300 IPM Doc Feeder with Dual head scanner and double feed detection.  Probably the fastest in the industry.

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KYOCERA TASKalfa 7054ci 7004i Speed license

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYUDTQYbP4s

Kyocera now seems to offer only four base models that can offer 10 different speeds.  With one base model you can jump up several speeds with one increasingly more expensive license.

The Kyocera dealer has to physically order the desired speed license with the corresponding stickers arriving in a box.

... speed licenses seem to be a great way for both HP and Kyocera to generate additional revenue for little additional cost while simplifying the inventory requirements.

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From what our service team's told me, the Kyocera speed licenses can't be in-field upgrades.  The speed license is required during setup/initialization.  Part of this is because the 60-70ppm color models use different toner cartridges from the 40-50ppm, and the 35ppm color model uses different toner from the 25ppm.

So Kyocera's speed license appears to be strictly inventory based for manufacturer/dealer rather than an upsell to the customer.

... it is not hard to image Kyocera or HP giving away free or deep discounted speed licenses when needed to close a big sale or offer as a promotion.

Overall, I think speed licenses are the future of copiers as it helps to simplify inventory especially in a post COVID world with rising hardware costs, scarce chip sets and tenuous supply chains that all can be unpredictable.

Speed licenses are not a new concept so one has to wonder why the other OEM's have not rushed to incorporate this feature into their design.  I am sure they all crunched the math.

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