anyone have any info? Pete?
JG
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Pete just called me and spoke about this. Finally we will have our bookletmaker for the CMF and the AP versions!!!!!!!! Watch out Canon!
Plus rumor has it, we will have our 50PPM color printer sometime in 04. Rumor also has it that the system will be of graphic quality. Well that means 4 BIT color to me.
Pete, can you clarify these in some more depth?
Art
Plus rumor has it, we will have our 50PPM color printer sometime in 04. Rumor also has it that the system will be of graphic quality. Well that means 4 BIT color to me.
Pete, can you clarify these in some more depth?
Art
Art,
The 50PPM you speak of, is it Ricoh OEM or Toshiba?
JG
The 50PPM you speak of, is it Ricoh OEM or Toshiba?
JG
Ricoh
I am glad to hear that!
Just looked at it on the Ricoh Japan web site, all I can see is pictures since I can't read Japanese 
. Looks very similar to the CL7000CMF but I did see a saddle stitch pic.
Attached is the Japanese brochure, it has the pics of the saddle stitch finisher etc....Happy readin!!
. Looks very similar to the CL7000CMF but I did see a saddle stitch pic.Attached is the Japanese brochure, it has the pics of the saddle stitch finisher etc....Happy readin!!
The 50ppm color system is Toshiba OEM. Other rumor is the trade off will be that Ricoh offers to Toshiba the 2090, 2105 for resale. Uh-Oh...
Sources told me the 50ppm color laser printer is Ricoh's OEM product. I was not aware of a 50ppm copier to be released by Ricoh. I was aware of the 32ppm copier printer (toshiba OEM).
We'll have to do some more checking!
We'll have to do some more checking!
Source I have said any graphics color in the next 2-3 years will be toshiba OEM. I post questions on the league and the silence is deafing. Some posted a rumor about ricoh relableing konica or something like that a Dave jump all over that and said the was no truth to that rumor. Hmmm.
JG
JG
Art, I think that is accurate and I was confusing the topic with creative color. The temporary creative color solution will be Toshiba OEM. I'm surprised nobody commented on Toshiba having access to the 2090/2105.
Greg:
Thanx, I will make the comment.
Lets see, Ricoh Dealers, RBS, Savin, Savin Dealers, Lanier, Lanier Dealers, IBM and now Toshiba.
When the competition is down, do you lend them a hand to get back in the ring? Do you offer them technology that they don't have?
I for one think not! If Ricoh is doing this just to get thier hands on a decent graphics color device they are making a mistake.
I have given up in the color grahics arena (except where a customer is open to the AP3850C). I believe the graphics color copier/printer should be laid to rest with Ricoh and they should continue their focus on corp color and emerging technologies.
As far as our 90 and 105, do we really need more competition on the high end? Does Ricoh really need the consumable business that bad?
Art
Thanx, I will make the comment.
Lets see, Ricoh Dealers, RBS, Savin, Savin Dealers, Lanier, Lanier Dealers, IBM and now Toshiba.
When the competition is down, do you lend them a hand to get back in the ring? Do you offer them technology that they don't have?
I for one think not! If Ricoh is doing this just to get thier hands on a decent graphics color device they are making a mistake.
I have given up in the color grahics arena (except where a customer is open to the AP3850C). I believe the graphics color copier/printer should be laid to rest with Ricoh and they should continue their focus on corp color and emerging technologies.
As far as our 90 and 105, do we really need more competition on the high end? Does Ricoh really need the consumable business that bad?
Art
I heard we will have 2 new BW and color machines 1st qtr. They will be based on a" copier version of the CL7000 engine"(not the 1224/32) but have some new features and ACS(finally).
Also heard we will have a 35ppm color and BW printer (no copier????) sometime around March. I was told the CL 7000 series will be repositioned.
Also heard we will have a 35ppm color and BW printer (no copier????) sometime around March. I was told the CL 7000 series will be repositioned.
So let me get this strait....Sharp is Making the Toshiba 55-65-80 ppm machines and Ricoh is going to make their 90 and 105 ppm machines? Am I right here???
First, what 50cpm Toshiba color are y'all talking about? I can't find a 50cpm Toshiba color on their website or in the books. The only 50cpm colors I can find are Canon and Konica. Second, Toshiba makes SHARP's 55-65-80 cpm B/W, not the other way around.
That's why I asked if I was correct! 
Ted,
You are correct. This 50ppm color from Toshiba is a new box the will be releasing soon from what I have heard.
JG
You are correct. This 50ppm color from Toshiba is a new box the will be releasing soon from what I have heard.
JG
Jayson has it right, we will have a 50ppm copier/printer from Toshiba and a new 32 and 28 ppm copier/printer (ricoh OEM) with saddle stitcher.
Rumor has it Ricoh is going to drop the 1224 and 1232 from the line up as soon as inventory has been depleted. This is due to the excessive cycling of the equipment (there is no fix).
Rumor has it Ricoh is going to drop the 1224 and 1232 from the line up as soon as inventory has been depleted. This is due to the excessive cycling of the equipment (there is no fix).
Feb. 04 is the launch date for the new 28 & 32.
Saddle Stitcher, Scan 2 Email.
Saddle Stitcher, Scan 2 Email.
Hot off the Press From Gestetner. 32/38 info
Jay:
Great Job!!
Great Job!!
I sure love P4P Hotel. Thanks Jay!
Ricoh is going to relabel the Toshiba 31 ppm color for our graphics color system, PERIOD. It is going to be the new 31 which will replace their current 30 ppm color system with improvements. And the new 2232 2238 are coming and will address the calibration problem on the 1224 1232, which occurs every 50 copies/prints. Additionally, they will provide network connectivity like the 2022 2027 which does not require scanrouter. This will give us seg 3 color. I also heard a rumor that we may see a seg 4 business color system by year end(OOOps!)
Greg:
The new 2232 and he 2238, are actually improvements to the CL7000 and that engine. The only answer Ricoh has for cycling problem for the 1224 and 1232 is the discontinuation of the product once stock has been depleted (this is the reason there are extra spiffs for the 1224/32 in the states).
List for the 2232 is $14.5K and the list for the 38 is $16.5K for these systems.
Does anyone know how many of the 1224 and 1232 are available. I still think the 1224 and 1232 is a great box when placed correctly. meaning a user who does not print more than 40 color pages at a time and does not color print nor color copy more than 2,500 pages a month!
Art
The new 2232 and he 2238, are actually improvements to the CL7000 and that engine. The only answer Ricoh has for cycling problem for the 1224 and 1232 is the discontinuation of the product once stock has been depleted (this is the reason there are extra spiffs for the 1224/32 in the states).
List for the 2232 is $14.5K and the list for the 38 is $16.5K for these systems.
Does anyone know how many of the 1224 and 1232 are available. I still think the 1224 and 1232 is a great box when placed correctly. meaning a user who does not print more than 40 color pages at a time and does not color print nor color copy more than 2,500 pages a month!
Art