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It's not too often I'll post a title like I did. However wait until you all hear this.

We all compete, well at least some us compete with Ricoh Direct aka Ricoh Business Systems aka Ricoh Americas Corp.

Today, I had the distinct pleasure of seeing RBS compete with RBS. Thats right! Two branches in the same area (one was a hold over Lanier that was turned into RBS and the other was the traditional branch) I thought, what the %$^$ is going on??

Now, I'm going to take this a step further. The customer was interested in a W2400 wide format system, dual roll feeder, PS module, interface, RW Controller, and RW Scanner, along with PC for RW controller, delivery, installation and training.

So, where was RBS one in price for all of this, they were at a paltry $11,000, and the second RBS, well they were at $8,000 (I have the quote to prove it). Far be it from me to figure how how the %$#$ they are going to stay in business with these types of prices. Oh, thats right we dealers subsidize their ability to give equipment away at cost or lower.

So, the whole selling adventure became one big crap show.

To Ricoh, what is the problem, can't your salespeople at least here in NJ be real salespeople instead of order takers, low ballers or drop your pants specialists (I'm sure there's a few good reps out there), my God learn how to sell features, solutions and ease someones pain, or better yet, learn how to prospect for the accounts that are not in the market, you'll have a better chance of making a living.

I couldn't care less if I got the sale or not, it's just the arrogance the that the reps (and mind you, this has got to come from the top down) spew out to clients such as "We're direct, we'll always have the lowest price", "We're direct, we'll have the best service and support", "Why would you buy from a dealer when you can buy from us".

Ricoh get it through your heads, the dealers are your life line, and if it wasn't for having profitable dealers, you WOULD BE OUT OF BUSINESS!
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I also ran into something on Friday, it is a referral from a customer of mine. He wanted to get a second price on a Ricoh MP C5000spf with four paper trays, finisher and bridge unit.

Go figure...., here are the numbers 360.92 per month for the above mentioned system, plus 420,000 black pages at .009 (3,780), with delivery, installation, color toner kit, lifetime training, access to ricoh help desk 24x7x365 (I never new we had a 24 hour help plus every day of the year, is this true?). Plus RBS will pay the first two month of the lease and give a check back to the customer for $2,000. The deal will sell bring back at 360 per month about $17,692, cost of this deal at DMAP Level 6 with all of the above is about $16,796. Profit on box 896 at DMAP level 6 (this customer does not qualify for any special pricing promo's such as NCPG, GEM, P4P, ect).

Profit on service????

So, there was a mu of a little over 5%, is Ricoh now giving boxes away to get the service and supplies??? Is this the NEW thinking.

There were no other competitors in on this deal, this was the first and only quote this customer received.

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