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Please I could use some help in finishing this blog, please hit the reply with what you know about the all of the systems listed. I have some of the info filled but would like to see this as a joint blog from different members as to what they recall about these companies when they sold copiers. Enjoy!


Did you sell these, did you ever see one, or maybe you were'nt even a twinkle in your Mom's eye when these copier manufacturer were the King of the Road!

Adler Royal: Headquartered in Moutainside, NJ, these system were manufactured by MITA, one of the first full lines I carried when I owned my own dealership. DSM was Bob Morganthaler (think)

Yorktown: I've only seen one and couldn't even remember the model number, all I can remember is that the system was huge, a dial was used to slect how many copies you wanted.

Yorktown was made by Toshiba in the 70's (jomama)

Singer-Freidman: model 1082 It was a tabletop estat. Also GAF had 2 models a small desktop and a huge 40 cpm floor model that used strobe lamp exposure. all of these used roll fed paper like most but not all of the machines in that era. (jomama)

Saxon: I sold them but don't remember much about them...how they started or where they went. The company I worked for had the liquid tonere Savins and the Saxon was a dry toner alternative. (Old Glory)


Saxon PPC1 and PPC2!!! Plain paper & liquid toner (Anders And)

Copystat: Before Saxon bought them, the liquid estats were made and sold under the Copystat name. I worked for them in 1970/71. My first introduction to copiers. We thought the process was a miracle. (jomama)

Selex: Was a secondary line to Canon in the 80's (art post)

Canon introduced the Selex line as a bid machine category. They were basically just stripped down Canon units. (rj nelson)



Mita: Was one of the rockin star manufacturers during the early to late eighties. (art post)

Mita's big claim to fame was that they only made copiers so they were the experts. No company money going into R&D for camera's watches or whatever. (rj nelson)



Towa: If memory serves me correctly they were headquartered in Morrisville, Pa. They relabled Sanyo copy machines. Back in the 80's



Sanyo: From what I recall had a pretty decent line up of systems, they also OEM'd for Towa. Back in the 80's.



Minolta: Minolta 101 estat system (I trained as a tech on that system and remember selling the EP310, EP320, EP510 (just some of the early plain paper models).


Konica:



Rex Rotary: Back in the late 90's, NRG(Nashua Rex Rotary Gestetner)was involved with Savin Canada.(from Color1)

Rex Rotary did sell copiers developed and produced in Denmark, among others the "mailbox" (sort of) that could be wall mounted! (Anders And)

Eskofot: Also the attached 1001 from Eskofot was danish. (Anders And)



Royal: Royal was liquid based copiers.(Anders And) I have been selling copiers since the 70's. I started with Royal Bond units which were the size of a chest freezer and you could royal the dial up to 20 copies at 10 cpm. (RJ Nelson)


3M: Earliest copiers were the ThermoFax brand - ran copies past an Infrared lamp to transfer image to coated paper. I believe from the early 60's. I sold the 3M 545, plain paper, single tray, no reduction or enlargement. (Old Glory)

In mid to late 60's introduced the Model 107 & 209 2 step copiers - exposed a pink film to light and ran through a heater to transfer image to coated bond paper.

Next technology was M191 & 215 series in mid 70s - electrostatic process using a crush roller & heat to fuse the toner to coated paper - created a shiny surfaced copy - paper supplied in rolls and was light weight.

Finally in late 70s they moved to electrostatic process technology similar to today's imaging process and plain bond paper. This is when they started going to Japan for products - prior to this 3M manufactured products here in the states. (Lucas Distributing)

To add to an earlier post regarding the 3M 209 with the pink paper. The process was called dual-spectrum. After that 3M had the VQC line of electro static copiers ending with the VQC III. They really helped me be successful when I started in this business 30 years ago because it was so easy to pencil sell an upgrade to plain paper based on the high supply costs of the treated paper of the VQC III.(Old Glory)

i remember thw 209 and the 251 and of course the Termofax. (Anders And)



IBM: I sold and worked on the IBM 102 which was OEM by Minolta and was the Minolta 310 plain paper. Had the moving top, one paper tray and was so slow. $3,995 list ? (art post)



SCM Corporation: 1960's SCM was among the world's leading producers of coated paper copiers machines capable of automatically creating copies of an original document on specially treated paper coated with zinc oxide. In the mid 1970's SCM marketed a plain paper copier, the 6740, which it purchased from the Van Dyk Corporation. Back in the 60's & 70's



Apeco: (American Photocopy Equipment Corp) for a history of Apeco click here . Back in the 60's, and 70's. The American Photocopy Equipment Company (Apeco), which manufactured and marketed photocopy machines, was incorporated in 1954 after acquiring the name and assets of a limited partnership that had been in existence since 1939. (Havard Business School) read more here



Van Dyk Corporation:



Olivetti: Olivetti is a well-known Italian brand; you can find Olivetti copiers in the United States, but they are more common in continental Europe and the United Kingdom.

Olivetti was crappy ZnO machines (Anders And)

Xerox:
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3M: Earliest copiers were the ThermoFax brand - ran copies past an Infrared lamp to transfer image to coated paper. I believe from the early 60's.

In mid to late 60's introduced the Model 107 & 209 2 step copiers - exposed a pink film to light and ran through a heater to transfer image to coated bond paper.

Next technology was M191 & 215 series in mid 70s - electrostatic process using a crush roller & heat to fuse the toner to coated paper - created a shiny surfaced copy - paper supplied in rolls and was light weight.

Finally in late 70s they moved to electrostatic process technology similar to today's imaging process and plain bond paper. This is when they started going to Japan for products - prior to this 3M manufactured products here in the states.
You left out Saxon. I sold them but don't remember much about them...how they started or where they went. The company I worked for had the liquid tonere Savins and the Saxon was a dry toner alternative.

To add to an earlier post regarding the 3M 209 with the pink paper. The process was called dual-spectrum. After that 3M had the VQC line of electro static copiers ending with the
VQC III. They really helped me be successful when I started in this business 30 years ago because it was so easy to pencil sell an upgrade to plain paper based on the high supply costs of the treated paper of the VQC III.
Royal was liquid based copiers.
Olivetti was crappy ZnO machines
3M: i remember thw 209 and the 251 and of course the Termofax.
Toshiba BD25, or even the 25s? those were the days!
Rex Rotary did sell copiers developed and produced in Denmark, among others the "mailbox" (sort of) that could be wall mounted!
Also the attached 1001 fro Eskofot was danish.
I think I have some brochures from those days somewhere...

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Hi Art,
I have been selling copiers since the 70's. I started with Royal Bond units which were the size of a chest freezer and you could royal the dial up to 20 copies at 10 cpm. We took on a Camera Companies systems with their liquid units. (Canon). Canon introduced the Selex line as a bid machine category. They were basically just stripped down Canon units.

Mita's big claim to fame was that they only made copiers so they were the experts. No company money going into R&D for camera's watches or whatever.
What I remember about my early days...I sold the 3M 545, plain paper, single tray, no reduction or enlargement. I competed with the Canon NP 120 which touted instant on because of it's cold pressure fusing but it left a shine to the copy. I believe it had a stationary platen which I sold against by suggesting that all those lenses and mirrors jumping back and forth would be a source of problems. The other tough Canon box was the NP 210 at a blazing 21 copies per minute and amazingly small size.
I also remember hearing for the first time about a Xerox copier (the 4000?) that could actually create a two sided copy automatically. I didn't believe the customer who told me. I said that it would require two whole engines built one on top of the other and no one could afford the price of somethiong like that.
I remember the Minolta 310 but I was thinking that they also had a roll-fed copier that competed with the 3M VQC models. Am I right?

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