Heard from a well respected source that Kyocera will be eliminating its wide format systems. Has anyone else heard this??
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They only have one model,and that 3650w has been nothing but problems for us, not sure if it really matters if kyocera has a wide format or not.
quote:Originally posted by Art Post:
Heard from a well respected source that Kyocera will be eliminating its wide format systems. Has anyone else heard this??
Its kind of true. All Kyocera's own wide format have ceased production. The KM-3640w is a remodelled KIP 3000 and the only wide format available through Kyocera right now.
And it seems the original KIP version wins this one....
And it seems the original KIP version wins this one....
Being a Ricoh/Kyocera dealer, we have out a bunch out in the market place. An they all are running great. So I don't know why other dealers are having problems, but we are not.
The KMA 4850w was a fantastic product, well ahead of it's time.
KMA's dismal support of their wide format product line lead to it's demise, but had they any sense they could've owned the market. Their enept marketing of this very customer focused solution caused it's demise as Ricoh, Kip and later XES (6204) capitalized on the time KMA gave them (about 2-3 years) to get a single footprint, 600 dpi wide format system to market.
To add salt to the wound,KMA then got in bed with Kip to capitalize on the success of the Kip 3000. Problem is, KMA proceeded to remove (maybe this was Kip's idea) the much touted Kip 3000 touch screen and the the very user friendly software in favor of a bulky, difficult to master KMA software version within it's own controller. The 3650w is a doomed effort, I would never invest in one.
KMA, Japanese developers did a hell of a job hitting on most of the endusers needs in developing te 4850w, it's a shame their US organization could never get their arms around how to market it. They could've owned the low volume market in the US, no question about it!
KMA's dismal support of their wide format product line lead to it's demise, but had they any sense they could've owned the market. Their enept marketing of this very customer focused solution caused it's demise as Ricoh, Kip and later XES (6204) capitalized on the time KMA gave them (about 2-3 years) to get a single footprint, 600 dpi wide format system to market.
To add salt to the wound,KMA then got in bed with Kip to capitalize on the success of the Kip 3000. Problem is, KMA proceeded to remove (maybe this was Kip's idea) the much touted Kip 3000 touch screen and the the very user friendly software in favor of a bulky, difficult to master KMA software version within it's own controller. The 3650w is a doomed effort, I would never invest in one.
KMA, Japanese developers did a hell of a job hitting on most of the endusers needs in developing te 4850w, it's a shame their US organization could never get their arms around how to market it. They could've owned the low volume market in the US, no question about it!
quote:Originally posted by francois54:
The KMA 4850w was a fantastic product, well ahead of it's time.
KMA's dismal support of their wide format product line lead to it's demise, but had they any sense they could've owned the market. Their enept marketing of this very customer focused solution caused it's demise as Ricoh, Kip and later XES (6204) capitalized on the time KMA gave them (about 2-3 years) to get a single footprint, 600 dpi wide format system to market.
To add salt to the wound,KMA then got in bed with Kip to capitalize on the success of the Kip 3000. Problem is, KMA proceeded to remove (maybe this was Kip's idea) the much touted Kip 3000 touch screen and the the very user friendly software in favor of a bulky, difficult to master KMA software version within it's own controller. The 3650w is a doomed effort, I would never invest in one.
KMA, Japanese developers did a hell of a job hitting on most of the endusers needs in developing te 4850w, it's a shame their US organization could never get their arms around how to market it. They could've owned the low volume market in the US, no question about it!
nice background info at what happened, you should also post this on the Kyocera P4P, Im sure you'll touch a few nerves over there!