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The bizhubs are rumoured to do 140lb index...through the drawer...duplex!!!

The Savin color machines only do a maximum paper weight of 90lb...through the bypass...simplex only.

Are the bizhubs really all that or is this a "fish story". What are the reprocutions if a customer runs this kind of weight often on the bizhubs.

Any dual line distributors out there?
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We're dual line Konica and Ricoh. That info is accurate for some of the bizhub line, but not every model. The 350-250-200 monochrome engine, for example, does not do that. But, the C351 and C450 color engines do.

No repercussions if engine is rated for the weight and paper meets spec. Otherwise, we'd handle it like any other service issue where the problem is caused by client's actions.
Shaja:

So you're saying that the color machines run this weight without problems?

How/Why is it capable of so much more than the Ricoh machines?

If you ran this weight on a Ricoh (and it didn't jam which would be highly unlikely) you'd be replacing rollers and fusing sections like they were going out of style. This isn't the case on the Konicas?

Sorry if this is a little redundant, but I have to find some kind of a defense to this objection that is bound to arise.
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Originally posted by jswinberlin:
Shaja:

So you're saying that the color machines run this weight without problems?

How/Why is it capable of so much more than the Ricoh machines?



jswinberlin, I don't know what to tell you except that the Konicas were designed to do this and the Ricohs were not. I'm not an engineer, so I don't know the design decisions behind that. All I can tell you for us is that the machines have been living up to their promised specifications. You may want to consider your user's actual requirements in your "defense arguments." Just how often does the average business user really need to duplex 140lb anyway???

John, the Product Guide for the 350-250-200 series says that the manual bypass tray will handle "specialty paper (thick paper, OHP transparencies, postcards, envelopes, label sheets)". I haven't had any experience running transparencies myself.
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I lost a deal to the 250 because of the paper weight and t-shirt transfer claim. they told the client that the 250 would run 140lb....bad thing for customer is he purchased not leased and now he is stuck with the machine...and guess what the rep no longer works for Konica Minolta!
I got the weight information that I quoted above straight out of their spec sheet and Product and Sales Guide; it also was discussed during our sales team's launch training. It bears out with what our service team is seeing.

I do not see anything in Konica's materials for this model series about t-shirts. Must say it surprises me that anyone tries to put t-shirt transfer materials through a laser printer or copier anyway, since the transfer material is fused to the t-shirt fabric with an iron. Common sense would say to avoid heat in preparing the iron-on.

Neal, where you reviewing materials for the 250 or C250?

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