Did you see the Today show this AM. In Orlando by the airport regular was $5.39/gal.
They tried to interview the owner and of course they were not around. Then they asked for the employee to call him on his cell. The response from the employee was the owner said to "Please leave his property."
You talk about serious price gouging....moral of the story is always fill you car up BEFORE getting to the airport.
$3.49 in NJ for regular, it's a dam shame!
$3.61 north of Dallas.
$8.28
40 miles north of london
40 miles north of london
I paid $3.62 today, not as bad a Griffiths though.
We're up to $3.73 from $3.61 a few days ago.
Milwaukee $3.75 is the lowest around, but most places are in the $3.89-$3.99 range.
$4.21 was the highest that was posted on this thread, I'm thinking we're going to see that broken within the next 30 days. Could we see $5.00 per gallon???? 
now $3.68 for regular, cost me almost $54 to fill. 
You should've seen the double WTF moment when the pump stopped at $98.54 after filling my V8 F-150.
USD 2.30 per LITER!
Folks are not rational about gas prices nor MPG ratings of vehicles.
At $5.00 per gallon, an individual traveling 10,000 miles per year:
10mpg $5,000
15mpg $3,333
20mpg $2,500
25mpg $2,000
30mpg $1,667
35mpg $1,429
40mpg $1,250
45mpg $1,111
50mpg $1,000
Why would someone trade a comfortable, safe, roomy paid-off Yukon that gets 15mpg and pay $19k for a cramped Honda Fit in order to get 30mpg? Ignoring the safety and comfort aspects, and the cash flow impact with the purchase front loaded and the mpg benefits over time, the payback period is six years.
Worse if moving from a 15mpg vehicle to a 20 or 25mpg vehicle.
The guy already in a Honda Fit? Stands to save a whopping $667/year if he can find something that actually lives up to its 50mpg rating. Unless gas returns to $3, then his savings drop to $400/year.
We should be using a measurement of "Gallons per 100 miles" rather than the inverse and misleading miles per gallon, then it would be obvious that increases in MPG have huge costs and diminishing returns.
YMMV
At $5.00 per gallon, an individual traveling 10,000 miles per year:
10mpg $5,000
15mpg $3,333
20mpg $2,500
25mpg $2,000
30mpg $1,667
35mpg $1,429
40mpg $1,250
45mpg $1,111
50mpg $1,000
Why would someone trade a comfortable, safe, roomy paid-off Yukon that gets 15mpg and pay $19k for a cramped Honda Fit in order to get 30mpg? Ignoring the safety and comfort aspects, and the cash flow impact with the purchase front loaded and the mpg benefits over time, the payback period is six years.
Worse if moving from a 15mpg vehicle to a 20 or 25mpg vehicle.
The guy already in a Honda Fit? Stands to save a whopping $667/year if he can find something that actually lives up to its 50mpg rating. Unless gas returns to $3, then his savings drop to $400/year.
We should be using a measurement of "Gallons per 100 miles" rather than the inverse and misleading miles per gallon, then it would be obvious that increases in MPG have huge costs and diminishing returns.
YMMV
4.24 in Northern Chicago
50 dollars filled up my Jeep tank 1/2 way
50 dollars filled up my Jeep tank 1/2 way
so at cash gaps math, I travel 20,000 per year, based on that and my car averages 20 mile per gallon (oops), I'll use 5 gallans for every 100 miles!!! Thus I'm spending $5,000 per year on gas (gotta get a better expense check). If I got a new car that DID get 50 miles per gallon (oops) 2 gallons per 100 miles. I would only spend $2,000 and save $3,000 per year.
Since those hybrid models are not cheap, I'd have to spend about $25,000. It would take 8 years to recoup the cost of the car.
I could drive my car for another five years and still only spend $25,000 on fuel.
The savings is not there at least for me
Since those hybrid models are not cheap, I'd have to spend about $25,000. It would take 8 years to recoup the cost of the car.
I could drive my car for another five years and still only spend $25,000 on fuel.
The savings is not there at least for me
Art, you've got it. Plus factor in the substantially increased mortality risk driving 100,000 miles in a 50mpg vehicle versus a 20mpg vehicle.
We mask that by showing crash ratings based on the fiction that a tiny car will always hit or be hit by a similar tiny car. That's how you can have 5 star crash ratings for the Smart Car and 3 star crash ratings for Hummer H2's, by pretending that all collisions will involve a similar sized vehicle.
You can probably pick up 2mpg with just the following:
- Find a gas station that offers ethanol free gas if possible. Ethanol has higher specific output that water, but not a lot <G>. Aside from the economic and environmental stupidity required to justify turning corn into fuel, we ignore the marked decrease in gas mileage experience when fuel contains ethanol.
- Drive better. For the first time I have a vehicle with a live MPG gauge and I'm AMAZED at how much difference (from 18mpg per tank to 20mpg per tank) I experience by simply driving a little more smoothly.
- Tire inflation. Stay on the high side of recommended.
We mask that by showing crash ratings based on the fiction that a tiny car will always hit or be hit by a similar tiny car. That's how you can have 5 star crash ratings for the Smart Car and 3 star crash ratings for Hummer H2's, by pretending that all collisions will involve a similar sized vehicle.
You can probably pick up 2mpg with just the following:
- Find a gas station that offers ethanol free gas if possible. Ethanol has higher specific output that water, but not a lot <G>. Aside from the economic and environmental stupidity required to justify turning corn into fuel, we ignore the marked decrease in gas mileage experience when fuel contains ethanol.
- Drive better. For the first time I have a vehicle with a live MPG gauge and I'm AMAZED at how much difference (from 18mpg per tank to 20mpg per tank) I experience by simply driving a little more smoothly.
- Tire inflation. Stay on the high side of recommended.
$3.72 this am for regular!
Thank's to Hope and Change its $3.89 today here.
could the higher prices cause a hope and change for who's in and who's out as President?
we can hope for change - $4.19 in cincinnati today.
on the news in NYC, I saw $4.51 per gallon!
quote:Originally posted by CashGap:
Aside from the economic and environmental stupidity required to justify turning corn into fuel, we ignore the marked decrease in gas mileage experience when fuel contains ethanol.
You are right, Ethanol is not embraced by environmentalists or economists, it's only really embraced by one special interest group... the people who make Ethanol (and their suppliers, who grow corn).
In my opinion, Ethanol would not exist if corn were not grown in Iowa (and if Iowa didn't host a very early and influential presidential primary).
Also, worth noting that while this is a political issue, it is not a partisan one. Both parties lack the political will to say no to Ethanol.
$3.47 a gallon this morning.
paid $3.89 this AM and saw $3.59 for cash yesterday
$3.49 yesterday evening.
$3.51 for regular, I've been keeping a good account of mileage, it seems I'm averaging 1,600 miles a month. My car averages 22 miles per gallon, thus I need 72.2 gallons of gas per month. Total at $3.69 per gallon is $268.36 per month for gas!
Cell phone is about $120 per month, used mainly for business, thus I'm at $388.36 and then an additional $50 per month for tolls which would top me out at $438.36 per month.
Add in oil change every two months at $30 (15 per month), tires every 30 months ($400 for tires) for $13.33 per month. Another $500 per year for maintenance brakes, filters, tune up which breaks down to $41.66 per month.
Totals for the month is $523.35 and we're not even including a car payment. Fortunate that I don't have one.
Consider that my expense check is only $400 per month, I'm losing $123.35 per month.
Geesh, somethings gotta give right.
What is your average cost per month for what I outlined above, would like to hear from others.
Cell phone is about $120 per month, used mainly for business, thus I'm at $388.36 and then an additional $50 per month for tolls which would top me out at $438.36 per month.
Add in oil change every two months at $30 (15 per month), tires every 30 months ($400 for tires) for $13.33 per month. Another $500 per year for maintenance brakes, filters, tune up which breaks down to $41.66 per month.
Totals for the month is $523.35 and we're not even including a car payment. Fortunate that I don't have one.
Consider that my expense check is only $400 per month, I'm losing $123.35 per month.
Geesh, somethings gotta give right.
What is your average cost per month for what I outlined above, would like to hear from others.
$3.16 for regular in NJ
$4.09 at a few stations in New Jersey now, most in central Jersey are at $3.90
$4.09 in San Diego, CA!