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CL400dn

J Jomama (Guest)
Just downloaded the brochure for this new color printer. Got lots of nice features. 26cpm color and b/w. Then I go to page 3 and they have brought back that GD table to add a scanner. Jeepers! I have a 38 configured with that and anytime I have to get to a back cover or side cover or top cover, its unbolt the finisher, unbolt the table from the printer, unhook the cables, move the printer out. Re hook the cables outside of the table is the service requires it.
Then when I'm finished, its realign all that and rebolt it. And this printer is on a shelf on the stand.
Why not just make a copier version instead of this ugly table.
The 338 is a good looking machine, unlike the 38cmf.
Also I note that there is a keyboard under the scan unit. Must be a limited screen on the scanner.
OK, I just needed to rant.
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J JayDocusultant P4P'er
We just got a 4000 in for evaluation and I must say Ricoh has made some nice improvements. The image quality is great. It feeds 110 index from the paper trays. It will auto duplex 90lb index.

Ricoh has finaly figured out the envelope Issue. You can run # 10 envelopes from the bypass without setting the paper size. It just knows like an HP. (I used MS word) You can run envelopes out of the paper tray but here you do have to tell it the size. And yes NO WRINKLES!!!

I heard the Street price will be $1499.00

More to come…
Darren ....Darren ....Docusultant Elite P4P'er
The FAQ posted on Aficio League asks that question, Is it a Ricoh designed engine? And answers that yes it is. Frankly, this is what concerns me. (I'm not bashing, but when it comes to Ricoh designed color printers, the first thing in my mind is AP305 and AP505, which did not make me any friends.) Although it does look and have features similar to the Xerox Phaser 6250DP and the Konica Minolta magicolor 3300dn.
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J JayDocusultant P4P'er
I was lead to believe it is a Ricoh design. The product manager from Japan was here last week and was quite proud of that fact that it was a Ricoh OEM.

The printer has preformed flawlessly for us and we have tried to break it. Envelopes, cardstock, glossy/coated, out of spec stuff, it ran it all.

We have been burnt before by the 204/305/306/Cl5000 junk so I am always skeptical about the Ricoh line when it comes to anything but 28 lb bond or less.

We carry HP also and I have to admit that it looks like Ricoh may have finally got it right this time.
JasonRJasonRMaven VIP
quote:
Originally posted by Boston Mike:
It said A4- B5 which I thought was 11x17 was B4...I dunno...it would be nice to have a desktop like HP that did 11x17


The metric sizes start the largest defined size, "A0", and get smaller as the numbers go up. A4 is similar to Letter size(8.4x11.8), B5 is actually smaller, around 7x10, and B4 is about legal size (10x14.1). A3 is closest to 11x17 (12x16.8).

Like everthing metric, the system is a logical progression. A0 is exactly 1 square meter (even though it isn't square, it's about 33x48 in inches, similar to our Arch E size). A1 is an A0 sheet cut in half, and every sheet after that is the same way.

The B sizes are always between the A sizes, so the area of a B1 paper is between A0 and A1. When you hear B4, it is between A3 and A4.

C sizes are envelope sizes. The neat thing about the Envelopes is they are the same sizes as the A series. A C4 envelope can hold a A4 piece of paper unfolded.
Darren ....Darren ....Docusultant Elite P4P'er
Anyway, I got the Real Estate Agent to go with the Ricoh CL4000dn. What a monster! Works great though! Those starter toner cartridges sure don't have much in them. For the size of the tube, they look so empty! .... By the way. This Real Estate Agent was planning on buying HP through some sort of Real Estate Marketing thing from HP, it included FREE HP Real Estate Marketing Assistant software, that really had their attention ... they were so excited about the free software but missed the promo deadline ... They were so thrilled that I too had a Real Estate promo ... a Ricoh CL4000dn with HP Real Estate Marketing Assistant Software! (only $65.96 thanks to Page Computers).
J jswinberlinMaven VIP
I've sold one of these. It does work great. Accomodates heavy paper weight even when duplexing. No 11" x 17", but standard duplex and low cost per page.

Here's the Savin brochure. Sold it for $1430, we sell all of our printers low and let them eat as much as they can in our market. We pummel HP with the savings once we get into an account and are in the process of putting new Savin units in all of our existing accounts using HP knowing that the word will spread and soon people will beat down our door for our better mouse trap.

This document has been archived, please send me and email if you would like to purchase this document. art@p4photel.com

CLP26DN_Brochure_Hi_Res.pdf
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Darren ....Darren ....Docusultant Elite P4P'er
Well, it was nice for a few months anyway. Its not holding up. Customer bought for the thick stock capability and it worked great for a while, then the toner began rubbing off of the 110 lb index (within specs), customer tried a thinner stock. Ricoh had us turn up the fuser temp ... it was marginally better for a week, then it got the the point that the toner was not even bonding to standard 20lb bond paper! Ricoh sent us a nice new fuser kit, still no good. Has anybody else had a problem with this? Suggestions?
J Jomama (Guest)
not bonding to 20 lb stock? If youre not a tech, you need one. This one is going to be too obvious.
I see you got a new fuser unit. You're using Ricoh supplies? are the symptoms consistant? That is, happening all the time?
If not it could be damp paper. Using damp paper means the heat of the fuser is used to dry out the paper instead of melting the toner.
As I said this has to be something obvious.
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