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I'm up against a large MFP install and competing against Ricoh, Toshiba, Kyocera, and Konica Minolta as the finalists.  The customer is looking for True Adobe Postscript (PDL) and was curious to know if all 4 of these manufacturers have this or if they use an emulation. It appears Ricoh uses Adobe Postscript, but I cannot tell if the others have this or not.  Any feedback from the field would be greatly appreciated.

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Originally Posted by uofavb9:

I'm up against a large MFP install and competing against Ricoh, Toshiba, Kyocera, and Konica Minolta as the finalists.  The customer is looking for True Adobe Postscript (PDL) and was curious to know if all 4 of these manufacturers have this or if they use an emulation. It appears Ricoh uses Adobe Postscript, but I cannot tell if the others have this or not.  Any feedback from the field would be greatly appreciated.

 Ricoh uses genuine Adobe Postscript which is an option for every model.  It is typically $500-$1,000 per machine depending on the model. I'm positive Kyocera & Konica Minolta use emulations, & I'm pretty sure the same goes for Toshiba since their Universal Driver supposedly supports PCL & PS.

Czech is correct: there are Ricoh printer models with non-Adobe PostScript as well as 3rd-party Adobe controllers for Kyocera, Konica Minolta and Toshiba (each of whom have their own emulations.)

 

My question is: why is "true" Adobe PostScript requested (especially in 2013 -- HP has been shipping an emulation for 15 years and is still #1, no?)

All you have to do is look at the competitive analysis (See Attached) between the Ricoh C4503 and C6502 against the competitors from Canon, Xerox, and KM to see how much of a difference True Adobe PostScript makes in the printing speed. Emulation machines are noticeably slower, to the point that you could argue that a lesser Ricoh needs to be proposed in order to compare accurately.

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Originally Posted by Old Glory:

All you have to do is look at the competitive analysis (See Attached) between the Ricoh C4503 and C6502 against the competitors from Canon, Xerox, and KM to see how much of a difference True Adobe PostScript makes in the printing speed. Emulation machines are noticeably slower, to the point that you could argue that a lesser Ricoh needs to be proposed in order to compare accurately.

I'm not sure that the attached makes a point about emulations (other than Konica Minolta's homegrown PDLs) -- the Canon and Xerox machines in the analysis also offer "True Adobe PostScript"!

Thanks Old Glory!  There are some knock out bullets there I can use against various competitors.

 

Except for the high end 6550c series, Toshiba has abandoned offering true Adobe Postscript drivers. Its latest colour e5055c series offers only a PSL3 emulation driver.  The attachment rate of Fiery's was very low on the previous e4540c series that it replaced.  The latest Toshiba drivers offer features like CMY overprints that were previously only found in Fiery's add on controllers. Nobody seems to complain about the print speed.

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