Tagged With "Toshiba Wins"
Reply
Re: Hiring Sales Reps - what are you hearing
Surprising there are no replies yet. I would figure this to be a "hot" topic. We recently found one in the age demographic that will work out. He has more than a 45 minute ride, has closed a few orders already. Maybe you need to show them $500 at the interview and ask how they would like to get that $500, by working a week or trying to talk you out of it. After reading your thread it seems that neither of those "salespeople" have the "desire" to compete, yet alone the determination to "win".
Reply
Re: Need HELP! Kyocera Color A3 question
Top three points I make when against Kyocera. #1. Take them color samples from your device and any Kyocera because the color output is sub par on all units. If you don’t have access to one look in your crm for an account you co-exist with Kyocera in. Or the next time you have a knock out make some samples and keep them in a binder. If color quality is important to the customer it will be a win. Another point is showing them you get what you pay for, meaning 3 tier color is what they have...
Reply
Re: Will outside Sales Rep's go away?
I’m a little late to this party but had the thread open since it was posted. As a 35 year old i straddle the “millennial” and old school gap (in my opinion haha). There is value of ordering things online that can be commonly used or even basic electronics. But if it’s anything above basic, I still believe talking to someone even if on the phone, pays dividends. We recently bought a new vehicle for my wife and explored for weeks online our options, the new vehicles options, what the price...
Comment
Re: 7 Deadly Topics from 7 Deadly Sinners at Top 100 Summit (Part One)
Czech funny you should mention that "wolverine" look, it was actually one of the "challenges" at the event. Whom ever had the most completed challenges won a MS Surface tablet. I did not win.
Reply
Re: Target GP Margins
The whore'ing of the machines is getting worse and worse. Eventually the stupid Japanese presidents of the brands are going to be sitting around in a room somewhere trying to figure out why this industry went to sh*t and what do they do to fix it. This win the business at any cost to keep the factory running has to stop at some point....I would think.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
I pretty much never see anyone proposing Toshiba color equipment, so I haven't seen this. There are a few Kyocera dealers I've seen proposing their tiered color billing capabilities. What shocks me is that no Ricoh dealers have started marketing this. The Cxx02 series & Cxx03 series have the ability to report multiple tiers of color coverage for billing purposes, but in a market with 7 dealers + RBS selling RFG products I have yet to see a single dealer pushing it.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Ricoh hasn't even made us aware that those systems can do that.... I don't ever hear of anyone talking about the tiered rate. I wonder if, for once, everyone is on the same page and wants to keep it at a full page of color cost regardless. I hope it stays that way.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Our Ricoh SSS told us about it. I'd love to be the first one to push it & make everyone else react. Plus, it would improve profitability if we could charge a higher rate for higher page coverage.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Very interesting. Has anyone else seen Toshiba MFPs selling with tiered CPCs? Art, how were these deals structured? I'm seeing more and more of this from Kyocera (and less and less from Xerox ColorQube), but I'm interested to see how billing evolves once metering/billing and accounting technology catches up. Thanks, Jake
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Hi, we sell Toshiba in the UK. The current colour range can run with a two tiered counter already. We used to sell the Kyocera range with this feature it seemed to be good and won us business, but lost us money in service. When colour costs are dropping to 4p, the percentage of toner from the 4p is getting less. So to breaking this down into 3 tiers could seem marginal. But let say you could offer 1.5p for 2% coverage then 2.5p for 2-5% coverage and then 4p for above, you have now lost out...
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Jake Not sure, I got this from one of our branches. I will try to get additional detailed info on Thursday of this week, hopefully a quote also.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
In Canada, no such plan exits nor am I even aware the capability exists within Toshiba copiers. In my market, multi-tier pricing for color does not comes up in competitive pricing. For a 25 cpm, pricing seems to be holding steady at $0.010 Black and $0.070 color for single units. I have seen less and sometimes we move the cpc around a bit. For example, when we set up a copier we build the initial toner costs into our equipment costs. That gives us 32,000 colour pages to play with.
Reply
Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
SSG How have you been? Thanx for the response, I had heard of this tiered cpc for color happening in another state and just wanted to confirm.
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
1). The new e4508LP uses the heat of the fuser to decolorize the blue toner to clear. The seperate RD30 erasing device is still available and presents a few advantages. 2). The MSRP does not include the seperate RD30 erasing device nor is it needed. 3). Not yet available. 4). Not yet available but probably. 5). Not yet available. 6). Regular 20 lb bond paper works fine. 28 lb bond paper will produce a better erase. 7). 45 cpm is the speed of black only. 35 cpm is the speed of the erase...
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
thank you!! So, I guess the erasing will count as a click. Thoughts?
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
I do not know yet. The product is not yet released in my area until mid August.
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
There is an all inclusive cpc charge for the Erasable Blue toner. The cost per copy analysis suggests that if on a 60 month lease you do not expect the the customer to erase more than 210,000 pages (3,500 pages per month) you can forget the parts cost and charge the same cpc as for Black at around $0.010 per page with a decent profit. There is no charge other than the users effort to recycle pages printed with erasable blue. If a sheet of paper costs $0.010 and Erasable Blue costs $0.010 you...
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
SSG, ty for this. In order to erase the blue toner, does the device count a click for that?
Reply
Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
There is no charge to erase pages. A 3rd paper drawer would probably be useful. Letter/ Legal/ Erasable. The number of erased pages are recorded and displayed in the useful Paper Re-use Report which describes sheets of paper saved, CO2 saved and money saved. The Eco-MFP can erase pages at 17.5 sheets per minute.
Reply
Re: Question about Toshiba MFP's
Less than 5% of my Toshiba clients are not under a Maintenance Service contract. Toshiba sells lots of kits designed for trained service techs to install but not typical end users. Even those customers who prefer not to be invoiced for monthly meter reads we try to automatically collect the meter reads via email or fax and usually but them on copy blocks.
Reply
Re: Toshiba Introduces World's First Copier Delivering Erasable and Black & White Prints
Imagine a CMYK copier, except remove the CMY toner and developer and insert a new Erasable Blue (EB) toner and developer. Modify the copier so that when the Erasable blue toner passes back through the heat of the fuser, it de-colorizes the blue to white. A new rules based print driver can automatically makes software apps like emails auto print in blue plus provide a new counter to show how much paper, CO2 and money you saved. The previous generation product appealed to too small a section...
Reply
Re: Toshiba Introduces World's First Copier Delivering Erasable and Black & White Prints
A good YouTube video showing the erasable copier in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRBOqI9sq0
Reply
Re: Toshiba Introduces Powerful Desktop Multifunction Printer Trio
Anyone have info on these new models?
Reply
Re: Color MFP Trends, Tactics, etc
You stated and asked: "* The last year brought Ricoh’s entrance into the color light production and mid-production space with the C900/C900s and the Pro C550EX/C700EX. Although the C900 looks like a solid first step into color production, there may be some growing pains (outside of IKON) due to dealers' lack of production experience/contacts and printers' existing brand loyalty/hesitations about buying a 1st generation system. Does anyone see these replacing or beating Xerox/Konica/Canon...
Reply
Re: Is selling at cost the future for print hardware?
Merlin -- you are absolutley right...like any business there are several costs. but you never know if a dealer had special terms with a their manufacturer to order x amount - or if they were trying to acheive a certain level to hit their quoata or win some award? Really hard to speculate on a business model which we don't know anything about. But the one thing that I do know is that - these idiots are everywhere..... And quite frankly -- the people who want that type of partnership would by...
Reply
Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Go this via email today: Canon intends to make an offer of € 8.60 per Share for 100% of the outstanding Shares of Océ, representing a premium of 70% over Océ's stock price. There does not appear to be opposition to the deal either from European regulators or Océ board members. Océ will remain a separate legal entity as a Canon division, headquartered in Venlo (the Netherlands). The Océ brand is to be maintained and applied in all relevant markets. Océ will continue to lead its R&D and...
Reply
Re: Ricoh Pro 907EX
Were you able to win this deal? If so, how did you overcome the price objection?
Reply
Re: Daily Sales Philosophy
“Our doubts are traitors, And make us lose the good we oft might win, By fearing to attempt.” William Shakespeare (1564–1616) English writer
Reply
Re: How are Sales Going for 2010?
For a few of us at my company, sales have been at about the same levels as previous years, but many of our reps are barely treading water. 2011 is going to be an interesting year due to economic uncertainty and the fact that we will have to win more new business than in years past in order to hit our sales goals. We're counting on some hardware to start to "pull-through" in our MPS engagements as we begin the Optimize phase in the MPS accounts we've won this year.
Reply
Re: IKON steals University of Kentucky MPS contract from Lexmark!
Agreed, but lets just say the folks that wrote this have some "history" with Lexmark and they make sure to make Lexmark look bad every chance they have. Usually, when you see coverage of a big contract win, its more about who won the contract, not who lost it. Thats why I call it biased.
Reply
Re: IKON steals University of Kentucky MPS contract from Lexmark!
I'm willing to wager that Ricoh (IKON) was the LOW bidder. To the point where the University of Kentucky threw loyalty to Lexmark aside. IKON needed some type of newsworthy 'WIN' since they were acquired by Ricoh and the University of Kentucky gave them that opportunity.
Reply
Re: Need help with p4p forums
The constant stream of competitive information, "war stories" and conversations surrounding best practices in the dog-eat-dog world that is our day-to-day reality keep me coming back on a daily basis to look for the next nugget I can use to win deals & reach my production and income goals. I hope my competition stays off these forums & would probably pay to keep some level of market exclusivity to this library of industry-specific content.
Reply
Re: Ricoh's move into videoconferencing
I think this market is pretty open. Cisco has a big footprint and now that Microsoft owns Skype I would not discount Skype at all. I do not believe any other copier players are in on this though. Also, until multiple brands of conferencing systems can communicate together, I would think whichever vendor gets the largest foothold will win.
Reply
Re: Ricoh's move into videoconferencing
And so Ricoh being a new entrant to this field with zero base is a good thing how?
Reply
Re: Unfair practice of providing startup supplies on state and federal contracts
Hello montecore - could you explain about those low intial cpc costs being quoted to win the deal - are you saying that is for the start-up supplies cpc and then the dealer can charge more for the supplies later when they run out?
Reply
Re: Unfair practice of providing startup supplies on state and federal contracts
copyme....what I mean is the CPC yes is to win the deal but the maintenance costs are for the entire deal not just the start up costs. So if this was a 60 mo lease those rates would be fixed for the term of the contract. They will not increase 7-10% on a yearly basis.
Reply
Re: Booking Deals w/buy-out of existing leases
Good thought....but that would never happen. Most of the time in a stream of payment situation I take the number of months left and subtract 1 or 2 depending on the situation then I use that to base the buyout. That will knock down the buyout...especially when they are paying $300-$400 a month. This will make a big difference when figuring the lease. That can actually win the deal. The big wigs do not believe in the stream of payments and prefer to wait until the lease is up.....guess what...
Reply
Re: Up against Minolta with a Rioh MP-C6501/Savin C9065 & MPC5501/Savin C9155
The last thing I'd do is lowball that deal. If you win it on a lowball bid and the customer isn't happy with your image quality they are going to torture you. You're going to need plenty of margin in that deal to make up for the aggrivation you are going to get out of it.
Reply
Re: Custom Page coverage meter
The new series of Kyocera colour MFP's that was introduced last summer provides the means to set three tiers of counter for colour based upon the coverage of colour on the page. This permits setting three price levels based upon the amount of colour coverage. The settings can be adjusted by the dealer to fit their price model. It means you don't have to pay a full colour page price when you print a small colour item, say a logo, if the contract is set up this way. We just won a large...
Reply
Re: Custom Page coverage meter
Now that sounds like a great feature to have to position yourself for the win.
Reply
Re: OKI Data and Toshiba Tec Agree to Joint Development of Multifunction Printers
One observation. In the Canadian market both OKI and Toshiba have been low price vendors and for price sensitive purchasers often can win the day. Combining them could push prices lower for others as well. Up to now Toshiba had trouble competing for deals with mixed A3, A4 and printer components. Adding OKI products to their mix could make them more competitive.
Reply
Re: Japan's Sharp Corp plans to sell its copiers and air conditioners businesses
Somewhere near last.... However, I just picked up this press release from Rueters also: Sharp seeking over $1.2 bln for plant and other assets -Yomiuri * Sharp also in talks to sell some Tokyo offices -Yomiuri * Sharp will struggle to find buyer for solar business-source By Reiji Murai and Tim Kelly TOKYO, Aug 16 (Reuters) - Cash-strapped Sharp Corp is in talks to sell its key solar panel plant in Japan as part of an asset sale seeking more than $1.2 billion, local media said on Thursday,...
Reply
Re: BTA East 2012 District Event
There were 36 vendors at this event. I'll be posting a blog titled" my top 5 solutions/products of the event in the next day or so. Kyocera: Besides Nori have a heavy japanese accent, he was at times very hard to understand what he was saying, thank goodness for the power point slides. However, it seems that all of the manufacturers are now sharing the same slides! Business Process Optimization, find the pain, be a consultant to solve workflow and business problems with the use of software,...
Reply
Re: BTA's Capture the Magic District Event - Nov. 15-16, 2012
NEWS RELEASE For Immediate Release For More Information Contact: Oct. 10, 2012 Brent Hoskins Executive Director Business Technology Association (816) 303-4040 BTA West to Host Capture the Magic Nov. 15-16 in Las Vegas Kansas City, MO — On Nov. 15-16, 2012, the Business Technology Association’s (BTA; www.bta.org ) West district will host its second annual Capture the Magic event at the Mandarin Oriental in Las Vegas, Nev. Dealers who register by Monday, Oct. 15, will receive a $50 on-site...
Reply
Re: Does it matter what a presidential candidate promises?
You mean tank like it did under a Republican President and House in 2007-8? The entire world is going thru an austerity period. In nature you have to prune in order to develop new growth. Major businesses in the US are flush with cash and will start to spend when there is DEMAND - when the middle class has the money to spend not when the wealthy keep their tax breaks. Defense contractors don't need to build two more Aircraft Carrier Battlegroups as Romney wants - there's only ONE other...
Reply
Re: Windows 8 Compatability
FYI. To be technical, Windows 8 introduces SMB V3, improving security features among other things. http://www.windowsecurity.com/...SMB-Connections.html Although supposedly backwards compatible with SMB V1 & V2 found on most current MFPs, the transition is not quite as seamless as Microsoft hoped for. SMB V3 will likely require firmware updates from all of the copier manufacturers to be compatible. I have no idea on the Universal Print drivers until you try them. It is only a short time...
Reply
Re: Worst Copier Web Site in the World Contest
Hello Art, I belive you were going to change the 11th site listed from copierSplus.com to copierplus.com? No S after copier. This copierplus.com site has a promo from 2005 on a printer that was only for three months and has not been updated with any new equipment for 8 years! If this one does not win I would like to know which one is worse!