Tagged With "Pricing and April Promo"
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Re: COVID19 "Remote Working" Day Eighteen of Sales
People always like getting free stuff. Two promo ideas 1). Offer 1-5 free color banner prints to your clients and prospects.. Many copiers can now print banners up to 12"W by 48" L . This feature is often not promoted. It costs you almost nothing but the customer might perceive as having value. It could be "Open for Business", "Happy Birthday," "Grand Re-Opening", whatever. The customer can dictate the content. You can add a little logo in the corner of the banner "supplied by ABC Copier...
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Re: COVID19 "Remote Working" Day Eighteen of Sales
I like the second offer, yes people always like free
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Re: COVID-19 Impact on Dealers and the Channel?
I was on the MPSA call today. Here's some points of interest I was going to post on another thread but will put it here for everyone. One major MPS company reported 29% decline in pages or revenue Another major MPS company reported a 71% decline Healthcare for one of those clients saw a 40% increase More inquires from clients in respect to file sharing and content Expecting continuing decline for another 30 days in revenue and prints First week of April they hit bottom and has stayed that...
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Re: 10 Ways to Close Net New Business #4 of #10
Just a short update in reference to the account I was speaking about. The IG came back with many additional questions today, asking if the cost per page could be lowered, the annual cost of the maintenance agreement, and the price of the system. I stated NO on all accounts. We had started with a 25ppm color A3 device and then moved to an A4 color device. They were not even happy with that price. In addition when they received all of the no's they asked about pre-owned or used. I then stated,...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Never. They're too focused on high-end production and SoHo machines to gave a damn about anything else. Nothing in between seems to matter.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
They are never going to get their act together. I spoke with Jim Corridi at the CDA meeting several months ago and he told me big things were coming down the pipeline very soon because he agreed it would be hard to upgrade 3406WD systems with a 3406WD system. He also, however, acted like the Epson was going to be the latest and greatest thing for all of us that sell wide format. Not sure why since we don't typically mess with the ink jet machines. You can find the Epson's extremely cheap...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
The "big things" was hopefully not a teaser to keep dealers on board for wide format. Still, the only two I know about are the higher end wf's and not the W3601 series, anyone hear anything else?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We were talking with KIP but my father did not want to order 2 or 3 machines at one time for inventory like they wanted us to. I talked with Oce' and the guy was pretty much like talking to a wall and said he didn't need anymore dealers in his territory and pretty much hung up. I would like to have an alternative and not be at Ricoh's mercy. I have tried to upgrade 3406's with 3406's and it doesn't go over that well.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Even "Oceania" Ricoh has the W2401. Even though it's not an upgrade it would help with price sensitive deals.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Jason, Talk to KIP again I have never heard of KIP asking dealers to stock machines(maybe one for the demo floor). Plus KIP is releasing the new 800 series next month and these machines look like they should be good sellers. 8 full color "D"s per minute and 10K less that the Oce colorwave. We sell or have sold all the major lines of wide format, KIP, Oce, Ricoh, even going back to Xerox. All our sales reps and techs prefer the KIPs. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Number seems kinda low for OCE! Originally Posted by GR81: 2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Art, I think the industry is starting to figure out that Oce equipment is not as well built as it used to be. My techs hate working on them. In fact were finding the Ricohs are more reliable than the Oces. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I do find the Ricoh's to be very reliable. What they need is speed though, IMO. Have worked with a steel maker on some projects and he has 4 big Oce's that run all day long, 5 days a week. He loved the 3406 but said he would have to buy about 8 or 10 of them do the same work the 4 high speed Oce's run. He wouldn't bite on the 7140's either.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Call that KIP sales Rep again and make a deal with him. If you can get the deal with 2 KIP 9900s (those will replace the 4 Oce's), then you get to be a KIP dealer. He will also spend half as much in toner as those Oce machines just eat toner.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We're still trying to figure out this whole wide format thing out. Had a repro company also that would not even glance at the 7140 nor the supposed upgrade
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I'm pretty sure that the repro companies think that Oce' is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am hard pressed to find any that don't have oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Wide Format is in a big transition right now, I know KIP is no longer going to be putting any R&D into monochrome printing anymore. Its all color from this point forward, I know Oce (or CSA) is thinking the same way. I can't speak for Ricoh but at this point why would you put any money into it. Ink jet is not the answer ether so the Epson deal in not going to get you into too many doors. If the KIP 800 series is priced right (somewhere in the $25K-30K area) a lot of them will be going...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Jason, We don't were a repro company as well and we only use KIP. It's tough getting a company to switch.... But like I said look for a big switch over to color in the next couple of years.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Originally Posted by Art Post: Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
The Epson argument has been going on for years. I brought one product in as a complement product and direct print production sales fought for Epson devices as part of the portfolio. I wouldn't allow it. However, with Vellek in charge of all product marketing, a lot changed. Overall profitability on Epson to Ricoh is about 7-9%. Plus there is no way to lock a customer into a toner inclusive deal when they could by it anywhere on the web. Losing proposition for Ricoh, winning for Epson. I ran...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I'm wondering how the new KIP 800 series are doing. Many of my existing base w/ 5 year old + Ricoh's are asking if Ricoh will have something similar soon. Sounds like they won't? I can't believe that they aren't doing any R&D on it !!
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We don't sell the Epson, I do hear that many Ricoh wide format dealers are looking to change. The W3602 is due out something this spring, Ricoh is waiting to exhaust inventories on the W3601. I have not sold a W3601 yet this year and believe I only sold a handful last year, I used to sell at least a dozen a year. The W3602 will have the GUI as the color systems and many of the same features, sad but the GUI and the MFP features will still put us way behind with the likes of KIP & Oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I meant we don't sell the KIP brand, we do sell the Epson wide formats
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
KIP 800's are doing great!!! Every single customer that has demoed it has ordered one. We have installed 6 and all are running great with no issue, we another 12 on order. Only bad part is it is taking weeks to get them. We may never place a "new" monochrome machine again.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
GR81 That's awesome! Wish we had those boxes. What's the average price you are reselling those for?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
nice, I guess you can make a pretty good argument for color when there is a decent amount of color plotting that is produced, right? What is the estimated cost per square foot for color?
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We are getting $.03 per sq ft. That is less than the monochrome machines, this is why I don't see us placing anymore new monochrome machines. We will place some refurbished ones to the customers that have to go low budget. Not only that it blows the Oce Colorwave away. We have a customer who makes these 20 ft full color GIS aerials that cost him $21.00 each to run on the Oce (his numbers not ours) we ran them on the KIP at a cost of $1.76.
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Re: Need Kyocera Copier (dealer) Price List
Hi Art, I am with a Kyocera dealer and would love a premium upgrade. What exacly are you looking for?
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Re: Need Kyocera Copier (dealer) Price List
Hey Jason: Thank you for joining!! I have the Kyocera pricing I needed. However, I will need it again in the future. We can do something then. But, we have a promo for a Premium/VIP. For each competitive (recent) quote or proposal that you email me, I will comp you a FREE month for each one. Will that work for you? Art
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
this is the old list that was published on April 3rd. I included the new list in a link on the blog
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Re: Is selling at cost the future for print hardware?
Interesting approach to the sales process. Strikes me the next promo is for 10% below sticker price...of course unlike cars, manufacturers don't put a sticker price on MFP's to advise the public what the price is supposed to be. At this point we find the margin we are able to obtain on most sales of hardware barely covers the cost of sales for the product...any business profits come from services bundled around the hardware, either connectivity plans, support plans, supplies for colour etc.
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Re: CBS NEWS REPORT ON COPIER SECURITY
this came across my alerts today!! « How Computer Forensics Firms Market Themselves | Main April 21, 2010 Going to Ditch a Copier? Think Twice. It May Carry Your Data. We had an e-mail from the Virginia State Bar's ethics guru, Jim McCauley, asking about an article he had read about how copiers can be gold mines for identity thieves. Indeed they can. Jim asked John to comment on the issue for a piece Jim is writing. As always, John's information is valuable and generally unknown to many...
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Re: KM Promo
Interesting, Do you see the end-user rebates on the bottom half of the promo sheet working out?
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Re: Colortrac Inc. Distributes its SmartLF Wide Format Scanners via Promark Technology
Colortrac Announces Financial Results and Growth in Scanner Sales Colortrac Inc. Colortrac has achieved record unit sales, revenue, and profit in their financial year ending April 30th 2010. Not including new business from OEM agreements, worldwide unit sales of Colortrac brand SmartLF large-format scanners increased by 24 percent over the previous year. Colortrac's consolidated result (unaudited) shows that group revenues increased by 42 percent to GBP £7.3 million, with a corresponding...
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Re: Who Will Be #1 in Market Share for 2009?
Yes, Ricoh (with IKON, RBS, SAVIN, LANIER) still holds the #1 position as of end 2010 Q2 (April through end June 2010). Yet, they are down -18% (in terms of Units) as compared to the same time period last year (2009).
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Re: The Effect Currency Evaluations have on the MFP industry
Toshiba recently revealed that it actually profited from the strengthening of the yen that took place during the first half of its fiscal year through September. The company has apparently moved much of its manufacturing and product sourcing outside of Japan since 2009, resulting in the yen's rise positively impacting its earnings. Toshiba made 48 percent of its products in Japan between April to September 2009 and bought 45 percent of its components from Japan-based suppliers. By the same...
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Re: The Effect Currency Evaluations have on the MFP industry
Dollar Hits All-Time Low vs Yen, Falls Below 78 The dollar sharply extended its losses versus the yen to trade below 78 in late New York trading on Wednesday amid concerns over a nuclear crisis in Japan. The dollar [JPY=X 77.35 -3.38 (-4.19%) ] hit as low as 77.60 yen on trading platform EBS. The previous record low was 79.75 yen set in April 1995. Traders are nervously watching whether the Bank of Japan will intervene in the currency market to stem yen gains. A stronger currency makes...
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Re: Japan Crisis
Hi Art, Hope below help you understand the situation. This information came from industry analysts. OEMs Canon: Some plants are still not operational. They are facing serious shortage of Polyester from Kao. Biggest damage for MFP production is aspheric lens production at Utsunomiya plant. This is a key component for their MFPs, and recovery may take months. Tohoku Ricoh: Some of the facilities restarted operation, but not for chemical toner. Also finisher (for MFP/POD) assembly lines are...
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Re: Tohoku Earthquake Wreaks Havoc on Printer Industry Supply Chain
This was an article from the NY times over the weekend! SHIBATA-MACHI, Japan — When the ground shook violently on the afternoon of March 11, the ceiling collapsed in part of the huge Ricoh copier factory here, exposing the vents and wires above. The offices at the Ricoh plant near Sendai are still in disrepair; workers have focused on restoring the factory and production. The ceiling is still not fixed. But employees are back at their posts, working under temporary lighting and wearing hard...