Tagged With "July 2022"
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Responding to this question could immediately dissolve into a political debate. One fact is clear and that is that tariffs are essentially taxes that become Federal Gov't general revenue that can be used anyway the Gov't desires such as fund its massive deficit. Whatever money the Trump Administration gave away to its citizens in its tax cuts of 2017 it is now going to claw back with higher taxes disguised as tariffs.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
More than a few copier/ printers are manufactured in Thailand and the Philippines due to low labor costs. I do not know but I think these products tend to be more low end A4 and printer products. I think most A3 product is made in China. I can only speak for Toshiba but I know the majority of North American toner is made in North Dakota. As I am from Canada, I am hoping with fingers crossed that this very likely US tariff war with China will not effect us.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
" Whatever money the Trump Administration gave away to its citizens in its tax cuts of 2017 it is now going to claw back with higher taxes disguised as tariffs. " When one door closes another door opens. Many US companies can benefit from the higher tariffs placed on goods from China. In fact I spoke to one of those companies last Thursday. I disagree that the tax cuts are going to claw their way back with higher taxes disguised as tariffs. In the end, what Trump wants is fair trade practice...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Thank you for sharing the blog, Art. I must admit to not putting two and two together. I appreciate your thoughts. George Krebs Shore Business Solutions
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
George You are welcome!
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Do you agree that a new 25% tariff on copier/ printer products imported from China is a consumption tax on US businesses and consumers?
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In a hint at what is to soon happen with tariffs on copiers/ printers from China headed to the USA, Harley Davidson Motorcycles announced today that it would shift some production headed for Europe to other global manufacturing facilities to avoid paying tariffs estimated at up to $2,200.00 per bike. It could take nine to 18 months to make this change. It also said that it would not increase prices to European dealers and would take a hit to profitability for the remainder of this year at...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
"Whatever money the Trump Administration gave away to its citizens in its tax cuts of 2017 it is now going to claw back with higher taxes disguised as tariffs." Pretty much the only way to impact trade is to attack industries previously uneffected by imbalances. For instance, if the Canadians are charging a 270% tarrif on USA Dairy products, you can't resolve the problem using USA dairy. The only option is to offset using a previously non-effected industry, say Canadian Lumber. Obviously,...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Canada charges a 270% tariff because the US has a massive over supply of milk production. If US dairy product was to enter Canada without tariffs it would destroy our perfectly working dairy industry. Why should the USA be allowed to destroy our milk industry so as to partially solve a problem created within the USA? Besides, how do you think Canada maintains its "free" single payer health care system. It is by charging high taxes on all consumer purchases. I do not think that anybody thinks...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
"in hopes that these ill conceived trade wars will soon pass." Considered "ill conceived" by those adversely effected. I'm sure ending slavery was considered "ill conceived" by those adversely effected. Some corrections just have to run their course which may be what you meant by "will soon pass".
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
I suspect that you are retired from the copier industry and do not have to earn commissions each month to support your family. As an active sales rep, I do not have the luxury of hoping that things will run their course when I have budgets and quotas to meet each month. The people who are going to be adversely effected will be US copier sales reps with a higher cost of goods.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
What about the term "Free Trade" do you not understand? You argue the advantages of lower lumber prices for Americans while disputing the value of lower dairy prices for Canadians. Free trade suggests that the market should decide what is best for the consumer. Free trade would also suggest that your exorbantly high taxes really shouldn't be a factor. We should probably leave the health care debate out of the equation. I for one would rather have what we have than what the Canadians have,...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Nope...not retired and I do have to live from the commissions I earn from personal sales. I just don't believe that everything has to revolve around what is best for me. That being said, I am under the assumption that all copier manufacturers will be effected pretty much equally so I don't personally expect to be adversely effected.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
I am glad to hear that you are working in the copier industry so that I know that you have "skin in the game". There are very many players in the copier/ printer industry each with their own strengths/ weaknesses when faced with a trade war. Each player will have a different tolerance for how much money they want to loose to maintain market share. I definitely would not expect a uniform response. Multi line dealers will have more options to select from than single line dealers and brand...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
All very good points. I'm guessing larger players might have more manufacturing site options. However, if their A3 are manufactured in say US and Korea but their A4 are largely China, there could be discrepency even within a single manufacturers ptoduct line. Another manufacturer could have the reverse.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
as of July 6th, there is no tariff on copy machines. Just copier parts and accessories.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Are you sure? 84433960 ...........Copying machines https://assets.documentcloud.o...e-Representative.pdf
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
this is the old list that was published on April 3rd. I included the new list in a link on the blog
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Whew! Lets hope the list continues to exclude copy machines.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
agreed, however there may be another round after July 6th, Hoping NOT!
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Duties on Chinese goods started at 12:01 a.m. Friday in Washington, just after midday in China. Another $16 billion of goods could follow in two weeks, Trump earlier told reporters, before suggesting the final total could eventually reach $550 billion, a figure that exceeds all of U.S. goods imports from China in 2017. https://www.msn.com/en-us/mone...DxQ8?ocid=spartanntp
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
The Trump Administration today announced plans for a new round of $200 Billion worth of tariffs against China. https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/10...ffs-trump/index.html Copy machines were on the original list but but were taken off leaving parts and consumables subject to a 10% tariff. It seems most suppliers have not taken actions to increase their prices. On the new list which could go in effect sometime after Aug 30th are: 8443.39.20 Electrostatic photocopying apparatus, operating by...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
It seems the prospects of tariffs going away anytime soon are fading. Eventually the cost of most goods in the copier industry are going to increase because of President Trump. SSG I'm okay with this! This may help in the long run because more clients may opt for something off lease, or even release their existing devices. In both cases I'll probably make more than selling new. You keep calling it a TAX, it's not a tax it's a tariff. When I go to the store and pay for an item, a tariff is...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
You can call it whatever you want tariff/ tax but if your cost of goods increases by up to 10% this fall solely due to actions by the Trump Administration we will see if you feel the same by Jan 2019. You seem a bit naive in thinking that a tariff is not a tax. I am sure Ricoh will not share you opinion on selling less new equipment in favor of used gear.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Trump is doing the right thing. As far as Ricoh is concerned, I couldn't care less of their opinion. It's all about putting food on the table for our families.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
I, for one, don't care much what Ricoh thinks about my selling options. Tariffs also have a way of redirecting business decisions. China may sease to be a viable place for manufacturing. No manufacturer has 100% of their maunfacturing being done in China. No matter what, the effect of any tariffs will be watered down by whatever manufacturing that is being done elsewhere. I would really love to see something that tells what % of manufacturing is being done in China broken down by...
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"Tariffs have a way of redirecting business" Tesla announced yesterday plans to build a new car factory in Shanghai, China in part to escape potential US tariffs on auto parts and battery supplies. https://www.nytimes.com/aponli...-as-china-tesla.html I can only guess that it would take years and much capital and energy to start or relocate a new copier factory outside of China. The Philippines is currently an important manufacturing hub for A4 printers and MFPs due to low labor costs. Most...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
With no debate, the US Senate unanimously passed a bill that would cut or eliminate tariffs on toasters, chemicals and roughly 1,660 other items made outside the United States. Nearly half of those items are produced in China, according to a Reuters analysis of government records. One can only hope that copy/ print devices and their parts and consumables have had their tariffs eliminated. Since there are no manufactures of copiers/ printers on US soil, I do not know from whom the proposed...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
SSG I checked here and there is nothing new at least about the recent passing of the Senate bill. https://ustr.gov/about-us/poli...ffice/press-releases I believe that Trump would still have to sign the bill and there is nothing about the House of Representatives either. It doesn't look good
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
I read past the "bill" description too fast. A bill is not law, it is, I think, just an expression of unanimous opinion by the Senate. Somewhere in the news this week, I read that Kyocera intends to increase production of A3 copiers in China by expanding a current factory. I am sure all copier manufacturers plan 10+ years into the foreseeable future and cannot worry about politicians who could come and go every four years.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Would be nice if they could put some mfg plants in north america
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The Trump Administration announced today what they call a second tranche of tariffs against goods manufactured in China subject to 25% effective Aug 23. I think the copier/ printer industry once again escaped a direct hit. "8443.99.40 Parts of photocopying apparatus of subheading 8443.39.20 specified in additional U.S. note 4 to this chapter"
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
China retaliated this AM by placing a matching 25% tariff on $16B of US goods. We will see if the US escalates the trade war again putting copiers/printers manufactured in China imported into the USA back at risk for a 3rd time.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
President Trump announced today, effective Sept 24 2018, a 10% tariff on a broad list of $200 B worth of Chinese goods. https://ustr.gov/about-us/poli...inalizes-tariffs-200 On this final list are all forms of copy devices. No mention of printers. No mention of toner. Unless China makes serious trade concessions to the USA, without retaliatory tariffs of its own on USA made goods sold in China, the 10% tariff will rise to 25% on Jan 01 2019. These devices are on the final tariff list,...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
SSG Thanx for keeping this thread up to date! Kudos The economy is doing so well here in the US that I don't think many will care. I will use this to my advantage to get clients to move now. Now, I hope they do care! Art
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
I can imagine your "spin" to customers already. There is certainly a big sales hammer to close deals by Dec 31 2018. Probably some manufacturers "stuffed" their warehouses with product in anticipation of this tariff. Probably by Feb March 2019, if things go completely sideways, prices have to rise as inventory in the USA is depleted and new product is introduced.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Yup, it's a pretty BIG Hammer! I heard a radio report that the US trade debt rose significantly in July. I'm thinking what you stated is that "many of the manufacturers have stuffed thier warehouses". That's probably why we haven't seen anything to date with increases.
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
China retaliated to the new US $200 B worth of tariffs with $60 B worth of new 10% tariffs on USA made goods sold in China. This move is in defiance of President Trump's threat to raise the tariff on Chinese goods to 25% on Jan 01 2019 if China retaliated.
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Thanks SSG and Art for keeping us up to speed on what others may not!
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Re: Discontinuation of 1022/1027?
I bet it's not far off. I can't believe it took 2 years for the 1035 to be replaced. The 1022/27 is now about 18 months old. If they don't replace it soon, it will be the only machine in the line that doesn't have the scan-to-email and other options that the rest of the line from 35 and up have. Once the 2035/45's come out, there is no reason to sell a 1022/27 with the added features on the 1224/32C's and the 2035/45's. The 1022/27's will be considered a dinosaur. By the way, what is a ...
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Re: 2022/27 brochure contradiction
I noticed a few things on the PPT launch: Ricoh Aficio 2022/2027 Series MFPs Enhanced Document Solution Features Web-based Device Management Utility Server-less LAN-Fax Reception Server-less Scan to e-mail & folder LDAP with SMTP Before POP Authentication Not being the Super-Mega Geek that Graham is, what does "Server-less Scan to e-mail & folder" mean in plain English. Do we have or not have this on the 1060's; 2035's; 1232's etc?
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Re: 2022/27 brochure contradiction
Here are some other things in the PPT launch: "Further Efforts of 2022/2027 from Box to Solution Sales Approach By Customer Requested Improvements Web Based Device Management Client and Admin Server-less Embedded Scan To Email & Folder LDAP Support From Control Panel Server-less LAN-Fax Reception LAN-Fax Cover Sheet Editing Fax Address Book Import" It also states this: "Message and File name can be added." And this: "1. Send scan document with E-mail address to recipient utilizing...
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Re: Frustrated with Inventory Levels?
We had this very same converation in our Monday sales meeting. We had to purchase some of the new 2022/2027. We opted for one 2027 fully loaded (we are a small dealer with 7 reps also). We will use the sell down approach, and demo all of the features or just the features that are needed to demo or clsoe the sale. Our sales staff gets a $100 bonus for every 6 demostrations that are completed per month. None of our guys (except for me) make this bonus, as a matter of fact, I am only aware of a...
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Re: Stapling on the 2022?
I always use SMN for Client when setting up drivers. This one really bugs me. Also, we did not get any print drivers with our 2022. We are still not getting print driver CD's with our 35's & 45's. Is anyone getting the CD's with their 35/45's? How about Lanier and Savin & Gestetner's? Do they come with the print driver CD's?
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Re: Question for the Experts, Job Splitting
Yes it works. Machines being use for this are recommended to be of same series. ie 1035 and 45 or 2022 and 27 and so on. Also recommended to have same accesories such as like finishers. JG
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Re: non-adhoc email addresses
I may be missing something but Scan Router Lite does not support scan to email so I don’t know how you could program email destinations. Scanrouter pro does allow you to make “quick dial keys” to email addresses All the systems that have embedded scan to email can have “email quick dial keys” set-up via the control panel or the web monitor. The 2022/27 is currently the only model that allows you to do both scan to folder and scan to email destination at the same time.
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Re: non-adhoc email addresses
Yes let me clarify. The 1224sp can email and Scan to folder but you can't toggle back and forth on the same scan job. IE. I want to scan a page to network folder and email the same page to a customer. I would have to scan the document twice (once for scan to folder/once for scan to email) on the 1224Sp. The 2022/27 will allow you to switch delivery lists during the same scan job thus only needing to scan the document once. Not really a big deal I guess....
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Re: Aficio 2022/27 SMB SMB Scan to file!
Unfortunately my sources say the 2035/45 will not have an upgrade path for SMB. Ricoh will have a 2035e/2045e sometime in the second quarter that will have all the features of 2022/27.
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Re: HP 9000MFP and HP 4101MFP
Think of the 4101 as a 1013F that is 25 ppm and had color scanning. What I mean is the 1st copy time is a SLOW 12 seconds!!!The platen is 8.5x11 only, 30 sheet ADF (not ARDF), it only ways 70lbs. where the 2022 is 188lbs. w/o the ARDF. It appears to not have any speed or quick dials, no finishing...I don't even think it has zoom. Maximum paper capacity is only 1600 sheets (600 standard). The dispay is an LCD with navigation buttons like our Aficio 200/250 used to be. It does have color...
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Re: Used Copier Sales
That's puzzling. It should be better now than ever with economic factors being what they are and what does the 2550 do that the 2022 doesn't do? Color scanning? Is that worth paying double? What about used color? We are finally seeing good used color boxes (other than the original 1200 series that we would never put back out) becoming available. Used digital Wide Format has merit if you know where to look. We don't do much cost per copy that includes the equipment but it is a sales strategy...