Tagged With "Toshiba Surges on Report of Bids"
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Re: Canon and Konica Minolta Reps
Thank you Carl. We've had to reschedule the meeting. I didn't realize how ancient it was until I pulled a buyers lab report on it! I'll have more after I meet with the guy next week.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
I pretty much never see anyone proposing Toshiba color equipment, so I haven't seen this. There are a few Kyocera dealers I've seen proposing their tiered color billing capabilities. What shocks me is that no Ricoh dealers have started marketing this. The Cxx02 series & Cxx03 series have the ability to report multiple tiers of color coverage for billing purposes, but in a market with 7 dealers + RBS selling RFG products I have yet to see a single dealer pushing it.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Ricoh hasn't even made us aware that those systems can do that.... I don't ever hear of anyone talking about the tiered rate. I wonder if, for once, everyone is on the same page and wants to keep it at a full page of color cost regardless. I hope it stays that way.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Our Ricoh SSS told us about it. I'd love to be the first one to push it & make everyone else react. Plus, it would improve profitability if we could charge a higher rate for higher page coverage.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Very interesting. Has anyone else seen Toshiba MFPs selling with tiered CPCs? Art, how were these deals structured? I'm seeing more and more of this from Kyocera (and less and less from Xerox ColorQube), but I'm interested to see how billing evolves once metering/billing and accounting technology catches up. Thanks, Jake
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Hi, we sell Toshiba in the UK. The current colour range can run with a two tiered counter already. We used to sell the Kyocera range with this feature it seemed to be good and won us business, but lost us money in service. When colour costs are dropping to 4p, the percentage of toner from the 4p is getting less. So to breaking this down into 3 tiers could seem marginal. But let say you could offer 1.5p for 2% coverage then 2.5p for 2-5% coverage and then 4p for above, you have now lost out...
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
Jake Not sure, I got this from one of our branches. I will try to get additional detailed info on Thursday of this week, hopefully a quote also.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
In Canada, no such plan exits nor am I even aware the capability exists within Toshiba copiers. In my market, multi-tier pricing for color does not comes up in competitive pricing. For a 25 cpm, pricing seems to be holding steady at $0.010 Black and $0.070 color for single units. I have seen less and sometimes we move the cpc around a bit. For example, when we set up a copier we build the initial toner costs into our equipment costs. That gives us 32,000 colour pages to play with.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?
SSG How have you been? Thanx for the response, I had heard of this tiered cpc for color happening in another state and just wanted to confirm.
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
1). The new e4508LP uses the heat of the fuser to decolorize the blue toner to clear. The seperate RD30 erasing device is still available and presents a few advantages. 2). The MSRP does not include the seperate RD30 erasing device nor is it needed. 3). Not yet available. 4). Not yet available but probably. 5). Not yet available. 6). Regular 20 lb bond paper works fine. 28 lb bond paper will produce a better erase. 7). 45 cpm is the speed of black only. 35 cpm is the speed of the erase...
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
thank you!! So, I guess the erasing will count as a click. Thoughts?
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
I do not know yet. The product is not yet released in my area until mid August.
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
There is an all inclusive cpc charge for the Erasable Blue toner. The cost per copy analysis suggests that if on a 60 month lease you do not expect the the customer to erase more than 210,000 pages (3,500 pages per month) you can forget the parts cost and charge the same cpc as for Black at around $0.010 per page with a decent profit. There is no charge other than the users effort to recycle pages printed with erasable blue. If a sheet of paper costs $0.010 and Erasable Blue costs $0.010 you...
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
SSG, ty for this. In order to erase the blue toner, does the device count a click for that?
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions
There is no charge to erase pages. A 3rd paper drawer would probably be useful. Letter/ Legal/ Erasable. The number of erased pages are recorded and displayed in the useful Paper Re-use Report which describes sheets of paper saved, CO2 saved and money saved. The Eco-MFP can erase pages at 17.5 sheets per minute.
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Re: Question about Toshiba MFP's
Less than 5% of my Toshiba clients are not under a Maintenance Service contract. Toshiba sells lots of kits designed for trained service techs to install but not typical end users. Even those customers who prefer not to be invoiced for monthly meter reads we try to automatically collect the meter reads via email or fax and usually but them on copy blocks.
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Re: Toshiba Introduces World's First Copier Delivering Erasable and Black & White Prints
Imagine a CMYK copier, except remove the CMY toner and developer and insert a new Erasable Blue (EB) toner and developer. Modify the copier so that when the Erasable blue toner passes back through the heat of the fuser, it de-colorizes the blue to white. A new rules based print driver can automatically makes software apps like emails auto print in blue plus provide a new counter to show how much paper, CO2 and money you saved. The previous generation product appealed to too small a section...
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Re: Toshiba Introduces World's First Copier Delivering Erasable and Black & White Prints
A good YouTube video showing the erasable copier in action. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwRBOqI9sq0
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Re: Manufacturer Support on Bids
I agree. My KM rep and his boss were in the office yesterday and I asked him why he didn't show any interest in this opportunity and he said because you are buying at the lowest I can give you right now and there is nothing else I can do from a support part. He said he gave it about a 3-5% chance of winning the account based on what he read and what he could do. I am ok with that as most of our bid opportunities are not set up around here for dealers to participate. They always have some...
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Re: Toshiba Introduces Powerful Desktop Multifunction Printer Trio
Anyone have info on these new models?
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Re: Manufacturer Support on Bids
Just had the same issue with Xerox on a $100K deal, 'your pricing is already better than our bid pricing'. Have margins eroded that much or are they trying to hold what little they have left?
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Re: Is This the Beginning of the End for the Padding of Lease Rates?
Here is a report from leasingnews.org. One of their legal editors is doing a three part review of this legislation. Leasing News Exclusive: State Senator Steven Glazer and the genesis of CA SB 1235 (Part 1 of 3) By Tom McCurnin Leasing News Legal Editor This is important not only if you are doing commercial business in California, but this may affect other states. If you are new to this, here is legislation passed both the assembly and senate, awaiting California Governor Jerry Brown’s...
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Re: Copier Parts & Accessories China Tariff Starts in 9 Working Days
Yup, it's a pretty BIG Hammer! I heard a radio report that the US trade debt rose significantly in July. I'm thinking what you stated is that "many of the manufacturers have stuffed thier warehouses". That's probably why we haven't seen anything to date with increases.
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Re: Around the Word with Konica Minolta
Konica Minolta Again Joins the Fight against Childhood Cancer Ramsey, NJ, Aug. 15, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc . (Konica Minolta) today announced they will again support Tackle Kids Cancer, a philanthropic initiative on behalf of the Children’s Cancer Institute at the Joseph M. Sanzari Children’s Hospital at Hackensack Meridian Health Hackensack University Medical Center. As with last year, Konica Minolta is partnering with THE NORTHERN TRUST...
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Re: Savin Dealer LOW price
I am VP of Sales at A&A and have no record of this bid being put out by us. I guess you should not believe everything you are emailed. PS. we've been in business for 49 years. Not going anywhere.
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Re: GR firm wins Muskegon school district's copier bid
I understand that these dealers are part of the RFG, but they are also dual line dealers. Advanced Imaging recently taking on Canon and Adams Remco using Toshiba, especially for bid situations. Not as familiar with Applied Imaging, but I believe they are Canon also.
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Re: Weekend Industrty Notes from 09/20/09
Well, I've heard of some good pricing, but I think $34 a year for 3.2 million copiers takes the cake!
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Re: P4P member: Allegheny County signs 5 year contract with Amcon Office Systems
Gman - Your absolutely right...Green Initiatives have always interested me and from a financial perspective they are great investments right now for stocks. Art - Thank you -- this was the most competitive and nail bighting 4 months in my career so far. Being government this bid had to go out to the public. The bid requirements were 50 pages long, and the time spent in dotting I's and crossing t's was insane. Every company who sells copiers bid in the Pittsburgh Market. Everyone body who...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Tokyoamsterdam: Japan's Canon plans to buy Dutch copier and printer maker Oce for 730 million euros ($1.09 billion) as it tries to return to growth after the global downturn and fight rival Ricoh. Copier and digital camera maker Canon and Oce said in a joint statement on Monday that Canon intends to offer 8.60 euros per share, or 730 million euros, for Oce's outstanding shares. Canon's offer follows little over a year after Japan's Ricoh, the world''s largest copier maker, bought US office...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
-Big boost to Canon's Production biz -Decent boost to Canon's Direct sales -Big FU to Konica and its OEM/Production units (Oce arguably KM's #1 reseller) -Big Benefit of having just $119M in debt (Canon=0.4% debt load) -the 730 Euro price is barely above Oce's 704E debt - Both Ricoh and KM were deemed too financially unstable to bid on Oce -Hp and Kyocera may counter offer, but unlikely -Wow
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
So, will KM enter a better bid?? Read below: Océ may terminate the conditional agreement with Canon in the event that a bona fide third party makes an offer which is, in the reasonable opinion of Océ’s Management Board and Supervisory Boards, superior to the Offer. An alternative offer shall only be regarded as superior in the event its bid price exceeds the Offer price by 10%, or in the event of a consecutive bid by 5%. Canon has a right to match a superior offer. In the event the...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Konica Minolta Says It Has No Plan to Counter Oce Bid (Update1) By Mariko Yasu Nov. 17 (Bloomberg) -- Konica Minolta Holdings Inc., the Japanese lens and office-equipment maker, said it has no plan to counter Canon Inc.’s offer to buy Oce NV for 730 million euros ($1.1 billion). “There’s no plan to make an offer to Oce at the moment,” Minoru Ikehara, a spokesman at the Tokyobased company, said by phone today. While Konica Minolta had considered an acquisition of the Venlo, Netherlands-based...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Found this on the web today:: By Pavel Alpeyev Nov. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Orbis Funds, the asset manager that opposed takeover offers by Warren Buffett and Citigroup Inc., rejected Canon Inc.’s 730 million euro ($1.1 billion) bid to buy unprofitable Dutch printer maker Oce NV as too low. Canon’s 8.60 euros-a-share offer “significantly undervalues” Oce’s assets, and Orbis doesn’t want to sell its stake of about 10 percent at that price, the Bermuda-based manager of $20 billion in assets said in a...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Canon and Océ: More Details Canon and Océ: More Details By Cary Sherburne on November 19th, 2009 Océ management conducted a well-attended press teleconference today to provide further details of its acquisition by Canon. Jan Hol, who was interviewed earlier by WhatTheyThink, was on the line from Europe, and North America was represented by Mal Baboyian, president, production printing systems, Océ North America, and Joe Skrzypczak President and CEO of Océ North America. Océ reiterated that...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
SCENARIOS-Will Canon succeed in its bid for Oce? * Canon offering 730 million euros to buy Oce * Shareholder Orbis with 10 percent stake opposes offer * Oce shares remain above Canon's 8.60 euro offer By Harro ten Wolde AMSTERDAM, Nov 20 (Reuters) -Japan's Canon (7751.T) plans to buy Dutch copier and printer maker Oce (OCEN.AS) for 730 million euros ($1.09 billion), but large Oce shareholder Orbis said the offer undervalued the company. In response, Oce shares passed Canon's 70 percent...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
William Mitting, printweek.com, 23 November 2009 Shares in press manufacturer Océ are trading at a slight premium to the 8.60 euro a share offer from Canon, indicating the market anticipates Canon may be forced to raise its bid. Last week, Orbis, a 10% shareholder in Océ said that it believed the bid "significantly undervalued" Océ, despite a general impression that the bid was a strong one in order to deter a counter bid from Konica Minolta. Canon requires acceptance from 85% of its...
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Re: Panasonic Canada discontinues A3 Copier Distribution March 2011
On Jan 20 2010, Panasonic Australia notified their dealers of the exact same information, as reported in the Jan 28th edition of "Livewire" a supplement to the Cannata Report. Panasonic USA could not be reached for comment.
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Re: Ricoh Ikon Letter
Regional Vice Presidents (Wholesale) will not have responsibility for IKON, nor RBS. This had been erroneously reported in an Industry newsletter. Each Regional VP (Dealer) will maintain responsiblity for Ricoh / Savin / Lanier Dealers only. They simply report to IKON leadership now.
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Re: CBS NEWS REPORT ON COPIER SECURITY
I think that many used copiers available for resale still have the original dealer sticker on them. This would be the first step a lawyer would take to attach liability. It seems odd that either 3/4 or 4/4 of the copiers that the CBS reporter picked were Toshiba. Balanced reporting would suggest he should have bought a mix of machines. It also seems very long odds that 3/4 copiers the data expert examined had large amounts of personal data on them. The report seems a little contrived to me.
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Re: Does your Copier Service Contract still reflect 1970's Analog Copiers?
Most copier brands now include the ability to email or fax the meter reads and service codes on a regular basis. I have never had a customer concern about this. Every Monday AM, I get a report from all of my recent copier installs. I have gotten pretty good at skimming these reports, seeing any problems and proactively dispatching a service tech. Customer really like the idea that I am electronically watching their copier.
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Re: School board committee recommends copier contract
"Automated Business had the second-lowest bid, ahead of Ikon’s four-year bid of $1,415,333 and Ricoh’s bid of $1,719,000." As I live and breath, there truly is a "pack of idiots" running Ricoh. Now, I've seen it all
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Re: Mark Pollack Joins Konica Minolta!
http://kmbs.konicaminolta.us/c...s-solutions-usa.html Industry Veteran to Bring Leadership, Expertise to Konica Minolta as Vice President, Marketing Communications and Program Development Ramsey, N.J. - July 29, 2010 - Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc. (Konica Minolta), a leading provider of advanced imaging and networking technologies for the desktop to the print shop, today announced Mark Pollack has joined the company as Vice President, Marketing Communications and Program...
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Re: HP has been positioned as a “leader” in the latest Gartner “Magic Quadrant Report for
I'm fascinated by Gartner's ability to collect money for declaring that HP is a leader in printers. Imagine the possibilities. Would anyone like to buy a report from me in which I reveal the top two US cola companies? Anyone?
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Re: When was the last time you did a demo in your demo room?
When you say you take a copier to a customer for a demo... Is it a Conditonal Sale? I will do this but only on the terms of if the MFP works as described you agree to buy/ lease that same unit without any further demos. I have seen too many potential customers do the Vendor merry go round with six copier vendors to get free copiers for several months. I have seen too many RFQs where a customer has to get three quotes and you are unexpected lowest bid. They ask you in for demo but never...
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Re: When was the last time you did a demo in your demo room?
Re: When was the last time you did a demo in your demo room?
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Re: When was the last time you did a demo in your demo room?
Yes, I remember once seeing a "bid" that had a requirement of a 90-day, no-obligation trial. At the time, I joked "They'd only need to get 4 guys to bite on this and then they wouldn't even have to buy a copier!". Exactly one year later, I saw the same "bid" from the same company. I guess it's working out for them. We declined to participate both times.
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Re: New Samsung 11 x 17" Colour MFPs due Oct 01 USA
Our dealer rep from Sammy was in late last week to discuss what we need to be able to handle the 11 x 17 release. In Canada they say it will be a 35 and 45 B&W and a 25 and 35 colour. Part of what they see is the ability to bid for larger deals where there is a need for SOME 11 x 17 but they can still do large part of deal with A4 product. He said they expect it for first quarter 2011. They know they are going to be an also ran in some ways but if they get the CPC in line then we know...