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Re: 57 Days of Selling "Day 29"

Martin Hofman ·
Hi Art, Google search for JerseyPlotters also on page 1 in Europe! Enjoy! Martin
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Re: It’s The End Of The Day With Ray! 2020 Who Will Educate Endusers

Art Post ·
HI Ray and Happy New Year! The A4 Revolution will not happen until those A4 manufacturers provide A4 print devices with the A3 cost per page model along with advanced scanning and finishing. You're right that's there's only a small percentage of users that need 11x17. However 11x17 is only part of the picture with end users needs. Larger document feeders, and stapling is still a requirement in many offices. As you know we could debate this until 2021 or longer, but the end game is advanced...
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Re: More than eight million pages printed by Coventry council in 2019

Art Post ·
okay, who is going to do the match for the cost per page and the US dollar cost?
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Re: Print Copy Tool versus Plotworks

jdicarlo ·
John, The PrintCopy Tool compares pretty favorably to Plotworks. I attached two documents to this post. The Product Support Guide lists differences between the two products. The PowerPoint has screen shots of all the settings in PrintCopy Tool. I hope this helps.
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Re: Ricoh Pro C5300

Art Post ·
this is pretty cool, check out this page on Ricoh Japan site, use google chrome as your browser and then right click to select translate on the site https://www.ricoh.co.jp/pp/hep/
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Re: 10 Ways to Close Net New Business #4 of #10

Art Post ·
Just a short update in reference to the account I was speaking about. The IG came back with many additional questions today, asking if the cost per page could be lowered, the annual cost of the maintenance agreement, and the price of the system. I stated NO on all accounts. We had started with a 25ppm color A3 device and then moved to an A4 color device. They were not even happy with that price. In addition when they received all of the no's they asked about pre-owned or used. I then stated,...
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Re: Target GP Margins

txeagle24 ·
I heard it through the grapevine a while back that RBS (at least in DFW) is no longer sending field reps out unless opportunities are above a certain value, meaning they are handling the sales process via telephone and email from start to finish. I see this as being the way things will be done in the future. From a business perspective, it makes sense if it allows dealers/direct to employ fewer sales people while generating close to the same revenue. If there is no value in a transaction...
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?

Jason H ·
Ricoh hasn't even made us aware that those systems can do that.... I don't ever hear of anyone talking about the tiered rate. I wonder if, for once, everyone is on the same page and wants to keep it at a full page of color cost regardless. I hope it stays that way.
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Re: Toshiba now has tier based CPC's?

txeagle24 ·
Our Ricoh SSS told us about it. I'd love to be the first one to push it & make everyone else react. Plus, it would improve profitability if we could charge a higher rate for higher page coverage.
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Re: Sharp M623

txeagle24 ·
According to BLI, this model was replaced in December 2014, & the replacement model is the MX-M654N.
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Re: Samsung Copier Million Page Test "A Tree Massacre"

Art Post ·
Seems my Blog about the million page test was not that well received with Samsung. They complained to ENX Magazine who then pulled the blog off their site. Whatever happened to FREE Press? They were not happy that I pointed out that they used "x" amount of tree's for a 1980's type test! Since Samsung spends money with ENX, ENX pulled the blogs and is not posting any of my latest stuff. You know what, as far as I'm concerned we here this finance stuff about Sharp, Toshiba and none of the...
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Re: 6 Reasons Why Flat Rate Service Program Will Change the Copier Industry

TomO ·
Art, a terrific take on the changing forces in the business model of the industry. Moneyball has arrived in the imaging business.
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Re: 6 Reasons Why Flat Rate Service Program Will Change the Copier Industry

Art Post ·
Thank you Tom, writing it brought back some awesome memories
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Re: Your Copier

Larry Kirsch ·
Welcome back😀 https://www.p4photel.com/blog/...-the-copier-industry 6 Reasons Why Flat Rate aka One Rate Will Change the Copier Industry Art Post 36 minutes ago I remember when plain paper copiers used rolls of paper and not sheets. I remember when the glass on the copiers had to move back and forth. I remember when copiers used liquid ink (toner) to produce an image. I remember when you used a dial to set how many copies you wanted to make. Yup, it's been a pretty incredible journey to see...
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Re: Toshiba e-Studio Erasable Toner 4508LP Questions

SalesServiceGuy ·
There is an all inclusive cpc charge for the Erasable Blue toner. The cost per copy analysis suggests that if on a 60 month lease you do not expect the the customer to erase more than 210,000 pages (3,500 pages per month) you can forget the parts cost and charge the same cpc as for Black at around $0.010 per page with a decent profit. There is no charge other than the users effort to recycle pages printed with erasable blue. If a sheet of paper costs $0.010 and Erasable Blue costs $0.010 you...
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Re: Color clicks

Old Glory ·
Does it matter whether the first page is color or just black?
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Re: Kyocera finally put's out a low volume A4 Color

Kyocera Guy ·
Yes I have sold a couple of these. For the price these are fantastic. My service manager is impressed which is hard to do. Dual side scanning is a definite selling point. The cost per page is going to be higher of course. I would say in the .015 black and white and .11 color to be safe (depending on your market of course). Not as good as say the 6535 per say but the machine is less than half the cost. If the run more than a couple thousand a month I would move them up to the 6535cidn. Let me...
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Re: Compensation Question

Czech ·
I get paid strictly on GP, but I would be unopposed to a bonus structure for this model. 90% of my sales are new business, so I sell anywhere from 4 to 7 machines per month with 1000 to 2000 GP in each one.
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Re: Is This the Beginning of the End for the Padding of Lease Rates?

Lease Maestro ·
Here is a report from leasingnews.org. One of their legal editors is doing a three part review of this legislation. Leasing News Exclusive: State Senator Steven Glazer and the genesis of CA SB 1235 (Part 1 of 3) By Tom McCurnin Leasing News Legal Editor This is important not only if you are doing commercial business in California, but this may affect other states. If you are new to this, here is legislation passed both the assembly and senate, awaiting California Governor Jerry Brown’s...
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Re: Is This the Beginning of the End for the Padding of Lease Rates?

Old Glory ·
from today's Leasing News. Ralph Petta Reaction to Tom McCurnin's "Is the Disclosure Too Complicated? of SB 1235" [ http://leasingnews.org/hires/petta_ralph2018.jpg ] From: Ralph Petta President and CEO Equipment Leasing and Finance Association 1625 Eye Street, NW * Suite 850 Washington, DC 20006 "Allow me to take exception and set the record straight with respect to Mr. McCurnin's statement in his September 21 article(1) about passage of disclosure legislation in California, SB 1235 that...
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Re: MPS and Linux HELP!

jdicarlo ·
So some clarification first. PaperCut absolutely does support Mac. In fact, it is the only cost recovery/print control solution that I know of that actually installs in an all Mac environment. (Server and Client) It also is the only solution I know of that installs in a Linux environment. So both of your issues are solved with PaperCut. I included the install guides for Mac and Linux to get you started.
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Re: Oki 1450 vs Ricoh 6700 wide Format

Art Post ·
So, the Oki or Teriostar 1040 is one page per minute faster than the Ricoh. Oki wants the user to replace the corona wire cartridge and the process cartridge. I believe the process cartridge is the drum. Now, the memories come back, if an end user scratches that drum, it's on the user to replace the drum which is going to be a very pricey item. If I was a business owner I would not want my peeps handling a part that has a cost of $1,500-$2,000. If they scratch it, it's on me to buy another,...
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Re: The A4 Challenge or Opportunity

fisher ·
In my experience A4 machines are as much or even more hassle than an A3 machine to install and train which I do myself for the customer but my income off of the sale of the A4 device is a fraction of what it would have been had I sold an A3. Beyond that most A4 machines lack a document feeder built to handle the page volumes of walk up copying and scanning my customers do. At the end of the day I have to make a living so I spend my time on A3 opportunities.
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Re: RiSO ComColor FW5230

fisher ·
That Riso is a relatively new model. Its expensive.....real expensive. Image quality and walk up functionality is not up to par with a laser MFP. Without digging up pricing I'm going to say $23K
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Re: ConnectWise Roadshow Hartford

Art Post ·
Because there were 17 different road shows that we posted. You can change email updates by going to your “motofications” page.
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Re: Around the Word with Konica Minolta

Art Post ·
Konica Minolta Again Joins the Fight against Childhood Cancer Ramsey, NJ, Aug. 15, 2018 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Konica Minolta Business Solutions U.S.A., Inc . (Konica Minolta) today announced they will again support Tackle Kids Cancer, a philanthropic initiative on behalf of the Children’s Cancer Institute at the Joseph M. Sanzari Children’s Hospital at Hackensack Meridian Health Hackensack University Medical Center. As with last year, Konica Minolta is partnering with THE NORTHERN TRUST...
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Re: Print Control/Mgmt

John MacInnes ·
Hi Everyone, Thanks for your posts. Every year or two we see new, low cost competitors that come out of the woodwork for a little while. We are selling against these guys the same as you fight your low cost competitors. There are a few obvious detriments that seem to have stood the test of time. The revenue model can not possibly be profitable for 80% of your customers. Ridiculously low is exactly that, ridiculous and unsustainable. $500 worth of technical support will be used up mighty...
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Re: Can your Copier Do This???

SalesServiceGuy ·
Some copiers have the feature "Blank Page Omit". I tested it but in this example, I think vwrome anser is probably the best.
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Re: Savin SPC221SF and scan to email

Art Post (Guest) ·
Question How do I use Scan to Folder on Windows? Answer Documents scanned using your device can be sent over a network to a shared folder. To use Scan to Folder, follow these steps: Note: To send scanned documents to a shared folder on a computer, the correct user name, password, and directory must be set. Files can be sent to folder destinations on the following operating systems: Windows 2000 / Windows XP / Windows Server 2003 / Windows Vista Mac OS X Destinations must be registered via...
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Re: High Volume Updates

Art Post (Guest) ·
RICOH PRO 907/1107/1357 PRODUCTION PRINTER FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS Q. Where do the new Pro Series Production Printers fit in the Ricoh high volume monochrome printer product line? A. The new Pro Series Production Printers are successors to the highly successful Digital Document Publisher models, the DDP70e and the DDP92. Those models were initially brought into the Ricoh product family through the acquisition of Hitachi. Technically, the 70-ppm Digital Document Publisher 70e is being...
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Re: Need Help for Print Solution!

JasonR ·
I can't think of any way to duplicate a page (that's not just a driver/print setting/printstream issue, that's wholesale re-creation of a page) without getting a package that will do much much more (and cost more than you want to pay). How about setting up two printers with different default settings and having them print twice? If they aren't willing to pay, they either need to be willing to take extra steps or relinquish this request.
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Re: Need Help for Print Solution!

Art Post (Guest) ·
Will not work, cause document then needs to be stapled. I do remember that in most printers, you can set a feature where the printer will make a copy of the page that was sent, is this still true in most printers?
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Re: Is selling at cost the future for print hardware?

Larry Levine ·
I think this is hilarious. When all else fails within your business model turn to being the low price leader. What ever happened to selling value. I thought business were in business to profit. I would be curious if they stole their current business model from RBS. Being the low price leader will get you somewhere for segment 1/2 but you sure are not going to be a very healthy & profitable company long term.
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Re: P4P member: Allegheny County signs 5 year contract with Amcon Office Systems

5050 (Guest) ·
Gman - Your absolutely right...Green Initiatives have always interested me and from a financial perspective they are great investments right now for stocks. Art - Thank you -- this was the most competitive and nail bighting 4 months in my career so far. Being government this bid had to go out to the public. The bid requirements were 50 pages long, and the time spent in dotting I's and crossing t's was insane. Every company who sells copiers bid in the Pittsburgh Market. Everyone body who...
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Re: Is selling at cost the future for print hardware?

5050 (Guest) ·
Merlin -- you are absolutley right...like any business there are several costs. but you never know if a dealer had special terms with a their manufacturer to order x amount - or if they were trying to acheive a certain level to hit their quoata or win some award? Really hard to speculate on a business model which we don't know anything about. But the one thing that I do know is that - these idiots are everywhere..... And quite frankly -- the people who want that type of partnership would by...
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Re: Is selling at cost the future for print hardware?

JasonR ·
If you can't speculate, how do you know they are idiots? The business model of selling products at a loss to gain future revenue is not new. Microsoft loses money every time someone buys an xBox, Dell gives away printers costing $1,000 for free, Razors and blades, etc. All of those examples have been very successful for years.
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Re: A Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Copier Demo/Appointment

JasonR ·
We had a tech go to a call once and there was a black line down the right side on the page. He made another copy and the line was down the left side of the copy. Another one and it was diagonal. He told the customer "this just isn't possible". He opened the machine to examine the lamp and a mouse jumped out!
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Re: A Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Copier Demo/Appointment

Btrammell ·
Several years back we had a demo in a pastor's home office for a couple of days when he called in because the machine was misfeeding. We had been selling him on the reliability of this model, so he wasn't very pleased with the performance. When our technician went out he opened the side of the copier and found that one of the Pastor's kids poured cornflakes into the copier. We got it cleaned up and he bought the demo.
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Re: A4s and Single Function Laser in MPS

Art Post (Guest) ·
OMG, the 3-5 has resurfaced in MPS??? That's was my first reactiion when I saw "toner out" and please tell me if I'm wrong. Toner out means that when the user runs out there is another charge due?
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Re: A4s and Single Function Laser in MPS

GIntel ·
no 3-5 is not back in MPS. Toner out is a way of describing the sales model for standard laser printers, where the aftermarket revenue is generated by the sales of toner and other supplies versus charging a set CPC for all supplies and service.
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Re: A4s and Single Function Laser in MPS

JasonR ·
My first thought is that your post has a lot of jargon in it I don't understand. (I'm directly responsible for MPS, so it's not that I'm unfamiliar with the terms). When Art can't understand your question about and industry he's been in for 20+ years, it's time to back up and re-write . Secondly, regarding your questions about placing supplemental A4 MFPs around, it all depends upon the customer. I have some customers that have central MFPs and NO additional MFP capability. I have others...
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Re: Ricoh Introduces the Aficio MP 2851 and MP 3351 Digital Imaging Systems

Dan Morgan ·
They actually did away with offering spf models and the fax option just gets added to the base model, which includes s/p. GIntel's and mmelrod's comments regarding the changes are pretty much the case. Pricing is pretty much the same as the prior models configured as sp models. Yes, the same will hold true for the 40/50 series, not sure how soon to launch though. Attached is the SIG that details all 4 units.
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Re: Ricoh Pro C720

bandit41076 ·
Ricoh Americas Corporation announced today the official launch of the Ricoh Pro C720/C720s, a production class multi-functional color system and the latest addition to Ricoh’s Pro series of products, designed specifically for the production environment. This flexible system targets corporate and commercial professional print environments with demanding application needs. The Pro C720/C720s has a robust duty cycle of 320,000 images per month, and runs at 72 pages-per-minute (PPM) regardless...
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Re: Is there a different approach?

GMAN ·
OK
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Re: Panasonic Canada discontinues A3 Copier Distribution March 2011

Art Post (Guest) ·
Panasonic Takes Aim at Fast-Growing A4 Class MFP Market Company to emphasize growing A4 MFP format in response to customer demands SECAUCUS, NJ (February 4, 2010) — Panasonic System Networks Company of America today announced plans to substantially increase its footprint in the burgeoning market for A4 multi-function products. The A4 market has undergone rapid growth and is emerging as the de facto standard in the marketplace. As a consequence the A3 market has been fading and will no longer...
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Re: Canon is preparing to launch 5 new b/w A3 MFPs

GIntel ·
Thanks guys. Im all set now. Here is what I came up with... Mainly speed, paper capacity, and memory improvements: ir2525 vs ir2018 -Faster speed/print out time (25/5.4) vs (18/6.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or (256/256 for 2018i model) -Greater std/max paper cap (1,200/2,300) vs. (330/1,080) -Greater toner yield (14,600) vs (8,300) -Larger footprint ir2530 vs ir2020 -Faster speed/print out time (30/5.4) vs (20/7.9) -Greater std/max memory (512/512) vs (128/256) or...
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Re: Ricoh Ikon Letter

Mega ·
It would seem that it all depends on where you structure your profitability. Since Ricoh is a Japanese manufacturer and sells its product to the US Ricoh company and then US Ricoh sells it to a dealer or direct, the profits can be structured to be very little if any in the US and very profitable in Japan. Ex: cost to manufacture is 10, sell to US mfg. sales concern for 20, US concern sells it for 22, dealers or direct sell it for 24. The cost of goods to the US is high and the profits remain...
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Re: CBS NEWS REPORT ON COPIER SECURITY

Art Post (Guest) ·
this came across my alerts today!! « How Computer Forensics Firms Market Themselves | Main April 21, 2010 Going to Ditch a Copier? Think Twice. It May Carry Your Data. We had an e-mail from the Virginia State Bar's ethics guru, Jim McCauley, asking about an article he had read about how copiers can be gold mines for identity thieves. Indeed they can. Jim asked John to comment on the issue for a piece Jim is writing. As always, John's information is valuable and generally unknown to many...
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Re: CBS NEWS REPORT ON COPIER SECURITY

SalesServiceGuy ·
I have added the following line item to all my Service Contracts going forward. Hopefully, it covers me. "7). All current model copiers equipped with a Hard Drive, will have the included 128 bit AES Data Encryption feature turned on upon initial delivery. This reasonably protects the confidentiality of any customer information stored on the copier’s Hard Drive, in case that Hard Drive is replaced or the copier is eventually disposed of. It is the customer’s complete responsibility to manage...
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Re: What will come of this?

txeagle24 ·
With this transition complete & the amount of IBM intelligence they have on board, wouldn't it make complete sense for Ricoh to acquire Lexmark, a former subsidiary of IBM? Ricoh seems to be obsessed with the printed page, unlike HP & Xerox who have acquired professional services firms to increase their reach in the I.T. space.
 
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