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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Never. They're too focused on high-end production and SoHo machines to gave a damn about anything else. Nothing in between seems to matter.
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They are never going to get their act together. I spoke with Jim Corridi at the CDA meeting several months ago and he told me big things were coming down the pipeline very soon because he agreed it would be hard to upgrade 3406WD systems with a 3406WD system. He also, however, acted like the Epson was going to be the latest and greatest thing for all of us that sell wide format. Not sure why since we don't typically mess with the ink jet machines. You can find the Epson's extremely cheap...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
The "big things" was hopefully not a teaser to keep dealers on board for wide format. Still, the only two I know about are the higher end wf's and not the W3601 series, anyone hear anything else?
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We were talking with KIP but my father did not want to order 2 or 3 machines at one time for inventory like they wanted us to. I talked with Oce' and the guy was pretty much like talking to a wall and said he didn't need anymore dealers in his territory and pretty much hung up. I would like to have an alternative and not be at Ricoh's mercy. I have tried to upgrade 3406's with 3406's and it doesn't go over that well.
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Even "Oceania" Ricoh has the W2401. Even though it's not an upgrade it would help with price sensitive deals.
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Jason, Talk to KIP again I have never heard of KIP asking dealers to stock machines(maybe one for the demo floor). Plus KIP is releasing the new 800 series next month and these machines look like they should be good sellers. 8 full color "D"s per minute and 10K less that the Oce colorwave. We sell or have sold all the major lines of wide format, KIP, Oce, Ricoh, even going back to Xerox. All our sales reps and techs prefer the KIPs. GR
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2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Number seems kinda low for OCE! Originally Posted by GR81: 2014 Toner based Wide Format sales. Seiko 1.8% Ricoh 24% OCE 33% KIP 41%
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Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the garbage). Would love to have KIP now.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Art, I think the industry is starting to figure out that Oce equipment is not as well built as it used to be. My techs hate working on them. In fact were finding the Ricohs are more reliable than the Oces. GR
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I do find the Ricoh's to be very reliable. What they need is speed though, IMO. Have worked with a steel maker on some projects and he has 4 big Oce's that run all day long, 5 days a week. He loved the 3406 but said he would have to buy about 8 or 10 of them do the same work the 4 high speed Oce's run. He wouldn't bite on the 7140's either.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Call that KIP sales Rep again and make a deal with him. If you can get the deal with 2 KIP 9900s (those will replace the 4 Oce's), then you get to be a KIP dealer. He will also spend half as much in toner as those Oce machines just eat toner.
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We're still trying to figure out this whole wide format thing out. Had a repro company also that would not even glance at the 7140 nor the supposed upgrade
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I'm pretty sure that the repro companies think that Oce' is the greatest thing since sliced bread. I am hard pressed to find any that don't have oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Wide Format is in a big transition right now, I know KIP is no longer going to be putting any R&D into monochrome printing anymore. Its all color from this point forward, I know Oce (or CSA) is thinking the same way. I can't speak for Ricoh but at this point why would you put any money into it. Ink jet is not the answer ether so the Epson deal in not going to get you into too many doors. If the KIP 800 series is priced right (somewhere in the $25K-30K area) a lot of them will be going...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
Jason, We don't were a repro company as well and we only use KIP. It's tough getting a company to switch.... But like I said look for a big switch over to color in the next couple of years.
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Originally Posted by Art Post: Only 16% of W3601 users turned on Plotworks!!! (from PLP) Originally Posted by fisher: The Epson thing is a joke. You can buy it on-line for less than you can buy it from Ricoh and so can your customer. I've got a customer right now who is at end of term on a 48 month lease on a LW426 and I have no choice but to go back to them with the exact same machine......oh and my cost is now higher for that same machine thanks to Plotworks (which gets thrown in the...
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
The Epson argument has been going on for years. I brought one product in as a complement product and direct print production sales fought for Epson devices as part of the portfolio. I wouldn't allow it. However, with Vellek in charge of all product marketing, a lot changed. Overall profitability on Epson to Ricoh is about 7-9%. Plus there is no way to lock a customer into a toner inclusive deal when they could by it anywhere on the web. Losing proposition for Ricoh, winning for Epson. I ran...
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I'm wondering how the new KIP 800 series are doing. Many of my existing base w/ 5 year old + Ricoh's are asking if Ricoh will have something similar soon. Sounds like they won't? I can't believe that they aren't doing any R&D on it !!
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
We don't sell the Epson, I do hear that many Ricoh wide format dealers are looking to change. The W3602 is due out something this spring, Ricoh is waiting to exhaust inventories on the W3601. I have not sold a W3601 yet this year and believe I only sold a handful last year, I used to sell at least a dozen a year. The W3602 will have the GUI as the color systems and many of the same features, sad but the GUI and the MFP features will still put us way behind with the likes of KIP & Oce
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Re: Ricoh & Epson = "perfect together" NOT!
I meant we don't sell the KIP brand, we do sell the Epson wide formats
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KIP 800's are doing great!!! Every single customer that has demoed it has ordered one. We have installed 6 and all are running great with no issue, we another 12 on order. Only bad part is it is taking weeks to get them. We may never place a "new" monochrome machine again.
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GR81 That's awesome! Wish we had those boxes. What's the average price you are reselling those for?
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nice, I guess you can make a pretty good argument for color when there is a decent amount of color plotting that is produced, right? What is the estimated cost per square foot for color?
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We are getting $.03 per sq ft. That is less than the monochrome machines, this is why I don't see us placing anymore new monochrome machines. We will place some refurbished ones to the customers that have to go low budget. Not only that it blows the Oce Colorwave away. We have a customer who makes these 20 ft full color GIS aerials that cost him $21.00 each to run on the Oce (his numbers not ours) we ran them on the KIP at a cost of $1.76.
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
Tokyoamsterdam: Japan's Canon plans to buy Dutch copier and printer maker Oce for 730 million euros ($1.09 billion) as it tries to return to growth after the global downturn and fight rival Ricoh. Copier and digital camera maker Canon and Oce said in a joint statement on Monday that Canon intends to offer 8.60 euros per share, or 730 million euros, for Oce's outstanding shares. Canon's offer follows little over a year after Japan's Ricoh, the world''s largest copier maker, bought US office...
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Re: UPDATE 3-Canon buys Dutch Oce for $1.1 bln, fights Ricoh
SCENARIOS-Will Canon succeed in its bid for Oce? * Canon offering 730 million euros to buy Oce * Shareholder Orbis with 10 percent stake opposes offer * Oce shares remain above Canon's 8.60 euro offer By Harro ten Wolde AMSTERDAM, Nov 20 (Reuters) -Japan's Canon (7751.T) plans to buy Dutch copier and printer maker Oce (OCEN.AS) for 730 million euros ($1.09 billion), but large Oce shareholder Orbis said the offer undervalued the company. In response, Oce shares passed Canon's 70 percent...
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Re: JOINT STATEMENT BY SHARP ELECTRONICS CORPORATION AND EDWARD MCLAUGHLIN
Very good points Art. The only print production (as some would call it) would be 85, 95, 110ppm. But these are more large departmental units. Mostly it is the 85ppm that is being pushed. There are only a few major players when you get higher than that. The very low end has always been a issue for them. The only item would be the AR-208 unit but that little Ricoh desktop will blow that away. Then there is the issue that some of these low end units can only be purchased from a distributor that...
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Re: there is no end in sight to Sharp’s crisis.
They could be going to more of a master distributor type of model. It is way less expensive for them to support 4-5 big wholesalers than 3-4-500 dealers across the US. The dist then has to give tech support, parts dist etc. A few years ago they pushed all the smaller dealers doing less than $500K anually thru distributors. This may be their long term master plan....... But who the heck knows?
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Re: there is no end in sight to Sharp’s crisis.
Going the Master Distributor route makes them a commodity in their catalog. No value selling, low cost and margins but it keeps the factories running - th ottom line.
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Re: Ikon Press Release iR 105+
Press Release Source: IKON Office Solutions, Inc. IKON Expands Production Color Offering With Canon CLC 3900 High-speed, High-quality Color Copier/printer Sets New Standard in Price-performance Monday October 7, 10:38 am ET VALLEY FORGE, Pa.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 7, 2002-- IKON Office Solutions, Inc. (NYSE:IKN - News) today announced availability of the Canon CLC 3900 copier/printer, targeting the growing number of businesses that require color in their daily document workflow. This...
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Re: Need Good People
Hi, I'm 28 years old and from South-Africa. I've been in office automation sales for Canon SA for 3.5 years. For the last 3 years with Nashua Western Cape which is the Richo distributor in SA. I am in need of a new challenge and willing to relocate. Please send me some more info regarding the position. Regards, Stefan Stander stefans@nashuawc.co.za
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Re: Ikon to relabel The Konica 8050 Color System
Here's the Press Release Press Release Source: IKON Office Solutions, Inc. IKON Launches New Color Printing and Copying System to Meet Growing Demand for Color Tuesday October 21, 9:29 am ET IKON CPP(TM) 8050 Enhances IKON's Strong Portfolio of Color Product Offerings VALLEY FORGE, Pa.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 21, 2003-- IKON Office Solutions (NYSE:IKN - News), the world's largest independent distributor of document management products and services, today launched the IKON CPP 8050, a...
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Re: Gas Price Check
Another jump today to $3.49. A buddy of mine that works for a refueling distributor said to get ready, because most states will be over $4.00 before summer.
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Re: MFP Wars "Death of the Independent Dealer"
Art I too am an independent dealer and have trouble getting deals with schools or govt. agencies. How can we bargain with the OEMs to get a piece of the pie. I have dealings with schools on rentals but have a hard time getting new equipment in there. Any suggestions? If you want to email me my email is dosystems7@yahoo.com Thanks and God Bless! Leonard Garcia Jr. at Dependable Office Systems
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Re: Panasonic Dumps Dealers, Keeps all but a handful!!!!
A Sharp P4P'er PM'd me this today (alot of stuff here from a tech MB) There had been rumors circulating that Panasonic was in dire straits. Some rumors said that Panasonic was getting out of the game altogether, some said that Panasonic would continue to make SOHO machines, but was dumping the commercial-grade WORKiO line. Some said Panasonic was just dumping printers. All of these I discarded, because Panasonic just recently announced two new WORKiO models, and will be shipping new color...
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Re: Panasonic Dumps Dealers, Keeps all but a handful!!!!
FWIW, we haven't been a pandealer for many years now, and can still order parts, anything we want.. . . from MSC. What is MSC? I just got off the phone with Scott, my (former) sales rep. Apparently Panasonic cut 15,000 jobs nationwide (last day is end of February), and dumped all but the top handful of dealers. Those employees who lost their jobs can re-apply, but the "new" positions will be far fewer. Here's what I know so far: -If you have an existing Parts account, you'll keep it. Whew.
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Re: RISO Redefines High-Speed Low-Cost Digital Color with Launch of New Inkjet Printers
Contact: David Murphy 978-739-3687 dmurphy@riso.com RISO REDEFINES HIGH-SPEED LOW-COST DIGITAL COLOR WITH LAUNCH OF NEW INKJET PRINTERS Revolutionary ComColor® series prints up to 150 color pages per minute for about half the operating costs of comparable toner-based MFPs Danvers, MA – June 17, 2009 – RISO, Inc., a leader in digital printing technology, today introduced its much-anticipated ComColor® series of full-color inkjet printer/MFPs to the North American market. With ComColor’s print...
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Re: Introducing the Ricoh(R) AC104,
This retagged Samsung product is in my opinion below Ricoh's standards. As an independent distributor, we have sold some of the Samsungs over the past year and a half and found them for the most part to be a disappoinment. I believe Ricoh is targeting the same SOHO prospects we were when we began implementing the Samsungs. My conclusion is that these prospects are better off purchasing from retail stores if they want inferior products. There has to be a line we won't cross, and under $1000...
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Re: E-Copy just like all the rest.....#$%$
Hello wyzguynyuk: We are an Authorized P4P Vendor. VircoSoft is a developer/distributor of fine document management products catering to the copier dealer industry. In fact I was in the industry before founding VircoSoft. Our goal is to provide quality products, priced to give our resellers the upper hand in virtually any competitive situation. WE DO NOT CHARGE A FEE TO REPRESENT OUR PRODUCTS We let our products, support and service do our talking for us. You get results, everyone wins!
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Re: Aficio 3045 user quotas
All of our school districts are asking for the same thing. A salesman in one of our branches has been installing keypads from HECON (about $515.00 from a 3rd party distributor here in the states). Unfortunately, that 3rd party distributor closed down. We were just discussing trying to contact HECON directly to see if they will sell to us...you might try the same thing. I, too, would be interested in hearing about the competition...according to our local school districts, Ricoh is the only...
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Re: Readability Study Finds That More Than Half of Students Unable to Read Content Displayed on 70-inch Flat Panel
Very interesting, maybe the reason I always fell asleep when movies were shown in school?
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Re: Epson Partners with Print Audit Australasia to Expand Portfolio of Managed Print Services
I saw the A4 device and a picture of the A3 device at the BTA South East event in Orlando last week. I believe A4 device had a US MSRP price of $2,400. It also included enough ink for 75,000 pages of combined black & color. Cool looking unit, however the bags of ink are huge and a little scary. Would hate to see one of those break in the office.