so in conclusion to the story, management blamed sales person for cc'ing Red in an email to management. Salesperson thought it would be GOOD that they know also. Nothing is being done about the nasty vm's. Salesperson then stated they will just not acknowledge Red anymore. So, it is almost two weeks later nothing is delivered, backordered from Ricoh on accessories, and no delivery in site for at least 7 or eight more days. Salesperson is now looking for a NEW job!