Very good points Art. The only print production (as some would call it) would be 85, 95, 110ppm. But these are more large departmental units. Mostly it is the 85ppm that is being pushed. There are only a few major players when you get higher than that. The very low end has always been a issue for them. The only item would be the AR-208 unit but that little Ricoh desktop will blow that away. Then there is the issue that some of these low end units can only be purchased from a distributor that in itself is a challenge when you try to compete in a large bid. I have seen some insane volumes that those units can do. The A4 seems to be the hot commodity now and has been their focus as the market was swinging. The printers are the A4 units without the RADF's the bad part is they are no cheap...should not have to pay a 3-4K for a laser printer. HP will kill that! This has never been a focus for them. MPS is a rare breed from them. They say they can do it but having the training to get that done it a different question. Then that leaves wideformat which they could never compete. I think they moved in the wrong direction with that non-friendly user interface with cool features that 95% of end users would never use. Even the retractable keyboard is rarely used but hey that is a cool feature. I think they will get gobbled up by one of the major players in the market overtime.