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The discussion is about Lexmark being a 100% Chinese Corporation and the potential threat this could be to sensitive Western IT infrastructure due to the new 2017 Chinese Intelligence laws.

HP is an American corporation that poses no threat to Western IT infrastructure.

I have no friends at HP and work for Toshiba Tec, a  Japanese copier company that tries to knock out HP products every day.

I use a Blackberry cell phone manufactured under contract by a Canadian world leader in IT & automotive security.

Ray Stasiezcko posted:
SalesServiceGuy posted:

In 2017 China introduced its new National Intelligence Law.

For Chinese citizens and companies alike, participation in ‘intelligence work’ is now a legal responsibility and obligation, regardless of geographic boundaries.

The scope and parameters of what Chinese authorities might deem to be ‘intelligence work’ are not clearly defined in these laws—which are, at best, ambiguous and open to varying interpretations.

The nature of the ambiguous but tightening relationship between the Chinese party-state and the tech companies that it claims as ‘national champions’ means there’s real potential for ‘extrajudicial directions’ .

https://www.canada.ca/en/secur...ce-competitions.html 

If you understand how,  google this "list of American corporations in China." We are a global economy and yes even your friends at HP need China. I imagine your cell phone was manufactured in China as well. 

 

Here's the correct link. 

SalesServiceGuy posted:

In 2017 China introduced its new National Intelligence Law.

For Chinese citizens and companies alike, participation in ‘intelligence work’ is now a legal responsibility and obligation, regardless of geographic boundaries.

The scope and parameters of what Chinese authorities might deem to be ‘intelligence work’ are not clearly defined in these laws—which are, at best, ambiguous and open to varying interpretations.

The nature of the ambiguous but tightening relationship between the Chinese party-state and the tech companies that it claims as ‘national champions’ means there’s real potential for ‘extrajudicial directions’ .

https://www.canada.ca/en/secur...ce-competitions.html

http://www.ca.com/us/products/it-asset-manager.html# Here's a list of American corporations in China. We are a global economy and yes even your friends at HP need China. I imagine your cell phone was manufactured in China as well. 

 

In 2017 China introduced its new National Intelligence Law.

For Chinese citizens and companies alike, participation in ‘intelligence work’ is now a legal responsibility and obligation, regardless of geographic boundaries.

The scope and parameters of what Chinese authorities might deem to be ‘intelligence work’ are not clearly defined in these laws—which are, at best, ambiguous and open to varying interpretations.

The nature of the ambiguous but tightening relationship between the Chinese party-state and the tech companies that it claims as ‘national champions’ means there’s real potential for ‘extrajudicial directions’ .

https://www.canada.ca/en/secur...ce-competitions.html

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SalesServiceGuy posted:

Ray, you are promoting Lexmark which is a 100% Chinese company that the Chinese gov't has has loaned to NineStar Corporation $3.6B USD.

NineStar is a corporation within a Communist gov't that is actively trying to displace the USA as the #1 economy in the world via deceptive trade practises.

When the Chinese gov't says to NineStar, jump this high, they say yes, sir!

Who knows what is in the Lexmark circuit boards installed on a USA gov't network!

For all of its many faults, at least I believe that HP supports the USA.

Normally I don’t waste time replying to those who hide behind the curtain and don’t use their name. Your arguments are based on some emotional nonsense. 

Ray, you are promoting Lexmark which is a 100% Chinese company that the Chinese gov't has has loaned to NineStar Corporation $3.6B USD.

NineStar is a corporation within a Communist gov't that is actively trying to displace the USA as the #1 economy in the world via deceptive trade practises.

When the Chinese gov't says to NineStar, jump this high, they say yes, sir!

Who knows what is in the Lexmark circuit boards installed on a USA gov't network!

For all of its many faults, at least I believe that HP supports the USA.

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