This Week in the Copier Industry 15 Years Ago, The Fourth Week in June 2003

Here's a gotcha for you, I applied for P4P status for an exisitng account. This account uses a VT6000 to print, plus they have direct mail services and an internet newspaper. Ricoh RMAP declined them, stating that they are not in the printing business. We said hold on a minute!, RMAP obliged and asked that we send some sort of advertising that states that they do printing. WE DID, plus we set a copy of an invoice for printing that htey resold. RMAP declined it again! This time they stated that

Here is a real quote on the Canon 3200 that a client gave me today. This unit is loaded but does not include scanning. Total purchase price $15,570.00. Service and Supplies as follows: $95.00 base includes 1,000 color copies/prints and each color copy/print $.089 Zero base for black and white and each impression billed at $.017 I don't know about you guys, but my 3800 series service pricing is not even close to this. How about you other Ricoh guys (outside of Dallas of course) How does your

From: salesguru3 (Original Message) Sent: 10/31/2002 2:55 PM Hey, I am in against Xerox on a Doc12 and my client needs this device to be able to do match print type proofing. He says the Werox can do it and it is because of the Imation Front End on the Doc12. What does that mean and can the 6513 now, or will it be able to with the graphic arts package and the E820 controller? THANKS!!! Posts: 1210 | From: Highlands | Registered: Mon January 06 2003 Docusultant Manager posted Tue January

Wish I could help, I am only familiar with the old "splash" rip for this system. The DOC 12 is very vunerable as a print unit. erox DocuColor 12 "User Comments" ricohaficio (43/M/Highlands, NJ) 8/21/01 10:01 pm 1. The Doc12 does not perform as well on coated stock and card stock as represented by the Xerox rep. 2. Since we leased a DOC12 with a Splash Rip in April 2000, our color copy volume has increased from 2,500 to 10,000 copies per month. 3. Since we first installed our Doc12, we have seen

It's the same old bs with Ricoh the last couple of years. We took Ricoh to be the significant player in both the private and public sector in Northern Nevada within the last 5-years (last year we were the second to the top black & white dealer in the nation) and all we get is a tremendous amount of grief from Ricoh...specifically a guy named Gary Bartley (West Coast Regional Manager for Ricoh). We did not want to add our second line, Kyocera, last year but Ricoh has left us with no choice. The

Does anyone know of any wholesalers or dealers looking to buy these?I may have one 185K, has finsiher and DF.Art

The kit comes with PC, mem and NIC correct?I have been burned by the "kit" before.Thanks,-=Mike=-

Thanks Graham. Couple of questions: Is the printer version incapable of having a feeder like the 3800C? What is the imagePass C-1? Do you have service and supply pricing by chance? THANKS

I was told by somebody (I'll withhold the name) at Ricoh that we could add the LCT on the 3800CMF. It is an option on the 3800C printer option, but it makes the CMF too tall (not industry compliant), that is why Ricoh says only 1,600 sheet capacity. He has seen dealers sell the 3800CMF with the LCT trays and increase the capacity to 3,100 sheets, in order to compete, with the only negative being the height. Hope this helps!

Can you tell me who that was or how I could find a dealer that does this? I am about to lose to the Canon simply because of the paper supply. THANKS

I am in the same boat, graham. Does anyone have info on xerox' Imation print controller and their Fiery X12? I'd like to see how they compare to our controllers. Thanks in advance for any help.

I am seeing Xerox offer zero minimum plans at $ 0.089 for an all inclusive service agreement. When comparing the 6513 make sure that you are using a densitometer to calibrate your print controller. Before calibrating the print controller make certain that your 6513 has not been calibrated from the factory default settings. Your service tech should be able to show you how to "wipe" clean the calibration on the 6513. This will help you achieve optimal quality. One thing you may want to point

Get this, with all of the top management being Savin people. RBS in the east, now has to answer the phones as RBS Savin!!!!!! A DSM from the east said that its crazy, people that Ricoh fired for whatever reasons,we then hired at Savin and are now dictating policy and procedure to Ricoh people. Go Figure! When I was at Agenda, and they introduced all of the Savin people as directors @ Ricoh, all I could think of was.......these were the same people that ran Savin into the ground! AP

Also if someone (maybe someone who sells both) could compare and contrast this product with our 3800 CMF or CL 7000 CMF. I am up against this with a 3800 CMF and the client needs a larger paper capacity. I am almost positive you CANNOT add any additional paper trays-drawers to the 3800 CMF. I do not believe the 1232 C compares if the client is running any color voume whatsoever. THANKS guys

Here is a side by side. Looks like you have to add all of the stuff - Doc Feeder, Print Option, Scan etc separately to the IR3200

Thanks for the help guys. I got the pricing and brochure yesterday for the 3200. On the side by side you sent me Graham it mentions that the maximum paper capacity on the 7000 CMF is 3,000 sheets. This would greatly help me out it if it is true. I looked at the brochure of the 7000 CMF and it says the same thing as the 3800 CMF, which is (3) 500 sheet trays and the bypass with no other paper options. Can someone verify or clarify this??? THANKS

You need to do all of the registry "hacks" to get it completely uninstalled and also, download the most current version of SR Lite from the Ricoh web site. This should help you. Thanks Graham

I doubt your ship will sink once the prospect sees the cost for the MX1200 if that is what you are referring to. That is Riso's variable data printer attachment option. It retails for $15,995 and dealer cost is $11,995. It operates at full speed (120/minute).

Jim, how is the variable data accomplsihed? Print and software application. Art

address as fast as the Riso can send the copies. The Riso prints the non-variable image and exits the document to the MX1200. The exiting document triggers the MX1200 to print the next address. The Risograph is not doing anything different than it ever does. That is why I contend that the same printer rolled up to the back of a PriPort would do the same thing.

I work with Greg Crews at C&W Copiers. We butted heads back and forth for years but decided to join forces to create a super sales person , well hopefully a decent on at least! Sales have been excellent the last couple of months. I still keep up with my old boys at Systel, but it is a much better fit for me here. Tyler

Can you use off line finishing in conjunction with the variable date printer, or is it a choose one only circumstance. Also do you have any pictures of that item?

Date: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:19 AM No you cannot. There were very few users of the 9-Bin Mailbox on the 1035/1045, plus most are using the Doc. Server or Lock Print as electronic mailboxes, instead of physical mailboxes. I would still check the driver setting

Ok Folks, here's a good one. I have a client who wants to take a PDF post it up on the fiery and then insert 2 barcodes as variable data. the first barcode will be a product number and then the second will be a serial number that will incrementally increase on each sheet printed. They currently have a barcode system in place that produces these barcodes on individual labels that are then manually placed on each product cover. They want to automate the process and eliminate the manual

IS anyone familiar with the pricepoint risso offers the Variable Dating Printing Option at for their 400 and 600 DPI dups? I am facing a situation where this has come up. I am also wondering if anyone might be familiar with the affect that this has on speed of out put. If anyone has a sucsess story in this situations I would greatly appreciate it. I am afraid my ship may be sinking. Brian

I need some real world competitive info on the 6513 vs the Xerox DOC 12... Anyone can help? Thanks Graham

Depends on how you are printing. If you are printing out of a newer version of Acrobat using PS than you might have a font problem if they don't have those fonts installed. If you are printing as an image file than you should have no problem

Maybe. But I'm not sure where Xerox is going to be with the 3535. What would be the process and or solution? What all do I need on the Micropress to drive either the 3850 or the CL7000? Please bear in mind that the only thing I know about micropress is that you can connect up to 12 systems to it. Thanks!

Since Freeform basicly creates a blank form just as if you have put pre-printed form stock in the paper tray, it is a matter of him having some sort of application that will accomplish inserting the variable data as a mail merge would. That is the only suggestion that I have... Sorry Graham

As I stated earlier, They have an application now that creates both barcodes. In theory can that application feed into the micropress thereby digitally placing the barcode onto the image? And then output it on a CL7000CMF? 2nd question. Have you ever closed any TR systems deals? We did, and another rep and his customer are totally frustrated with them. Thanks! quote: Originally posted by Graham: Since Freeform basicly creates a blank form just as if you have put pre-printed form stock in the

Revised info states 1,200 yield, 4,000 must have been stated in error. quote: Originally posted by dalsteen: Savin's notes: Models come equipped with a Starter Kit: Black, Cyan, Magenta and Yellow have a yield of approximately 4,000 each. Yield based on recommended average monthly copy volume, 8-1/2" x 11" paper and 20% coverage (5% each color).

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