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You gotta love the insight from Vince McHugh about Canon and OCE. He's dead on with the Ricoh/Ikon thing and dead on with the coming merge of Canon/Oce. Read and enjoy especially you Ricoh folks that have been slamming me for years, seems you're not the only dog on the block looking for a new fire hydrant! Vince....great stuff!!

In case your math skills are a little rusty the equation reads Oce is to CBS as Ikon is to RBS. True or not True. Here is my argument for True:

The carnage at Ricoh Business Solutions continues as the Ikon takeover of RBS moves into it’s final stages. Ikon’s management is firmly ensconced in upper and middle management of RBS. And guess who they are bringing along for the ride? All their Ikon friends. The loyal RBS employees are being squeezed out!

(Please feel free to skip the rant in red below. I will not feel offended if you do).

I need to digress here and say I long for the days when the company who BOUGHT another company called it a TAKEOVER, even a HOSTILE TAKEOVER!!! I am so sick of the political correctness of calling a purchase or a takeover a “merge”! In the old days a successful company bought a failing company and put IT’S MANAGEMENT TEAM in place of the failing companies management team to turn around the failing company. Ricoh seemed to be absent from business school the day they taught that lesson, because they buy failed, or failing companies and put the failing companies management team in charge of the company that bought them!!!! But I digress….

The Canon Business Solutions (CBS) “merge” with Oce is on the horizon. It is no secret that CBS has not performed well, and did not by any means fill the void in Canon’s distribution in the USA that was left by the Ricoh.....go here for more!
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In my area Canon Business Solutions is known as the biggest snakes in the industry. You can only 3-5 so many customers and leave them upside-down for so long before word spreads in the local community that you are a bunch of crooked used car salesmen. I'm sure my area isn't the only one where they have earned this reputation.

As for Oce' I can't think of a more backwards company.

Good luck to them all.
Here is what I don't understand they Lied about their revenue, they lied about their machine base, Ricoh paid millions back to customer, and they are still in control.

with Oce its a different story most people from Oce are in sticker shock. They cannot believe how much Canon stuff costs. it will be pretty interesting to see how they unfold for the remainder of 2012.

now I wonder Who's next? for a "HOSTILE TAKEOVER"
Jack stated: "Ricoh bought Savin, Lanier and Ikon and in each case Ricoh let them take over"

Question: During which of the above 'regimes' was Ricoh most successful?

I know the answer and it ain't right now!

While the IKON and RBS integration continues, Independent RFG Dealers are being fed a can of chaMPS until Ricoh can get back to becoming the largest 'Direct' manufacturer in the Industry.

Leadership at both Ricoh and Canon are still lacking, which is why you continue to hear these horror stories...
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with Oce its a different story most people from Oce are in sticker shock. They cannot believe how much Canon stuff costs. it will be pretty interesting to see how they unfold for the remainder of 2012.

now I wonder Who's next? for a "HOSTILE TAKEOVER"


Canons do cost more! I always tell customers that we won't be the "cheapest" but we will provide the best value, So we will see if Oce can actually sell the value! Anyone can give away a product when it's the cheapest, But a good salesman cam sell value.

My money is Xerox is the next up to be acquired, not necessarily by Ricoh. If I had to make a second choice HP is looking like they are in trouble.
Larry,

I agree it is a great time to be an independent!

Art,

When I was at Ricoh - RBS the Ricoh leadership was more concerned about all of the branches being THE SAME then they were about each individual branch succeeding. What made me loose respect for the Ricoh Management team was they did not respect individual achievement. So even though my branch hit our triple crown numbers they dismantled what we had put in place, what made us successful, because they wanted all branches to be the same (READ Mediocre).

American Proverb = The squeaky wheel gets the grease

Japanese Proverb = The nail that stands out gets hammered down

'Nuf Said!

Vince

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